Maybe you shouldn't try to put conditions on the discussion or on who can answer or how they can respond.
It's a public forum, you can choose to ignore posters if you disagree with their view, but it is an open forum.
For the record I have already responded to your specific question here :
Which you chose to ignore. The other part of your post is a hypothetical scenario based on the assumption of this mans guilt.
It adds nothing to the discussion in my view other than to create the association in peoples minds that this man must have done something.
To answer that hypothetical scenario of guilt would probably depend on the case for the hypothetical defence. This is an actual survivor of stalin's holdomor, consrcipted into the red army, the same red-army you have frequently expressed were treated inhumanely in German captivity. If he chose to work for the Germans it would depend on whether or not he did it in order to survive, what specifically were his duties etc etc However as regards the actual case rather than this new 'hypothetical guilt case' the relevant points are above. Specifically around the 'beyond reasonable doubt' issue and the apparent 'presumption of guilt'.
It is a public forum, correct, thus I asked for proper responses as opposed to your reply which avoided answering my question. I did'nt ignore your reply, I just disregarded it as it didnt answer what I asked. You may have reasons why you don't want to answer it directly but you should allow others to do so.
For anyone not that interested in a 'presumption of guilt-scenario based offshoot' to the thread, there is an interesting reality-based thread on the Demjanjuk trials (specifically the kgb card) here :
It contains among other things informative, factual posts made by a fee-based researcher who worked on the original Demjanjuk trial. It also contains a link to a site here (labelled a 'denier site' for an unknown reason) dedicated entirely to the question of the ID Card :
In fact if you look at this close up picture here it does seem to show that the ID card contains a picture from different document which has been added to it (note the mis-stamp and staple holes). This may explain the russian refusal to allow experts to remove the card from the embassy premise (in addition to what is beneath the picture).
The FBI-denounced ID card is also mysteriously identical to a card identifying a differnt soldier - check the handwriting and location of pen marks on both of these cards :
I would recommend reading the 3-page thread to anyone interested in this subject.
The axis history thread also contained this article which puts an interesting angle on recent developments. As a USA citizen he would have needed a high standard of evidence against him before extradition to face foreign charges. This was circumvented by withdrawing his citizenship, so he was deported rather than extradited. However Demjanjuk may now be in a position to revive his US nationality. The judge also confirms fraud on the part of the prosecutors in the case of his original deportation trial.
Its not even a challenge arguing this one with you Morlar- Yet again you shoot your self in the foot. This is an extract from your link:
So your 'reliable' FBI sources made there judgements without expert analysis? This really is codswallop of a particularly high calibre! and all to avoid a proper discussion on the subject, a totally abhorrent line of posting given the serious issues of justice involved.
The fact that the soviets withheld physical examination of the ID document, and withheld the original alleged eyewitness (now deceased) does not re-inforce the view taken by you that it's therefore genuine.
If anything, it would indicate that the KGB withheld it because they had something to hide.
Your repeated attempt to downplay the FBI conclusion that the document is a forgery tends to show a reluctance on your part to discuss the most vital piece of 'evidence' that exsists in this case. To simultaneously claim that on your part this is in pursuit of the truth, and with resepect to the 'serious issues of justice involved' is disingenous and hypocritical of you to say the least.
For a more balanced and informed view on this issue I would recommend the Axis history thread referenced in the post above :
I'd have to say yes, but, adding to that, it would be more important to me, that if this precedent was set, then it should apply to all war criminals everywhere, not just nazi ones from ww2. Yes, I'm talking about Iraq, Gaza etc. To make such a fuss over things that happened 65 years ago, and conveniently ignore whats happening today, makes a joke out the whole concept.
For example, surviving Mau Maus from Kenya are actually managing to put together a strong case over their brutal treatment in concentration camps set up by the British in the 50s. As well as financial compensation, I would like to see someone from the British Military, go through the ringer for this, like John Demjanjuk, but I doubt it will ever turn out that way.
That's a tough one. Strictly speaking, he was wrongfully accused. The case ate up 5 years of his life. Should he be compensated for that ?
Relating to Demjanjuk, how do you appropriately punish someone of his age ?
Hang him anyway ? House arrest ? I'm not a legal person, and don't have the training or qualifications to answer that. However, I've said already, I find the application of Ad-Hoc law in order to create a legal case, where one might not have existed in the statute books, in this instance, disturbing.
Demjanjuk is different to cases such as what happened in Iraq in the way those who are pursuing them yield an an incredible amount of power and easily influence governments.
that's what it seems to boil down to
This man has died
and very good.
I have to say it: happy days.