Just wondering if this might be a runner. There are still a few who don't have logs but might want to share their race experience, so why not do it here and even if you have a log sometimes it might get missed so just copy and paste. I know Daithi ran yesterday and elliwallach. Just an idea.


I just saw your thread after posting on the Belfast marathon thread. Here is a summary of my Belfast 09 marathon. Not as well writen as other reports around here but here you go:

What a feeling. Delighted to have finished my first marathon yesterday. I hope everyone else here had a good day and got what they had hoped out of it. Would be great to hear how others got on.

Weather wise, it wasn't the best day for it. Very cold and windy, especially that 16 - 18 mile stretch (I think) along the coast. No bother though, at least it didn't rain.

I thought it was very well organised and a big thumbs up for the Premier inn hotel that had plenty of marathoners staying. This morning at breakfast, it looked like an old folks home, the way people were walking. On the course there were plenty of water stations every 2 miles or so. Plastic cups but didn't have any issues. No problems with crowds and plenty of space. Not a hugh amount of people out cheering but those that were played a great part for me.

It was a hilly course but nice down hill stretches which was great. Super way to see Belfast and was well impressed. Filled the car with booze from sainsburys, probably not a good idea. Don't tell Peckham, my DCM mentor

About my race.
I spent a lot of time the week before thinking about what pace to run. I planned to run 8 min 15s miles but from mile 0 to 22 I kept an average pace of 8mins. Just felt great and stuck to that. From 22 miles was when it started to hurt. Mile 24, I hit 'the wall'. I now know what that feels like. I felt sick, had to walk a few times because I though I'd be sick and I faded something terrible. Absolutly amazing support the last two miles. Crossed the line in 3hrs 40mins and 14sec. Didn't give a damn about my time the last few miles and its only now that I'm chuffed with it. The achievement really was in finishing and my time for me was a little bonus. The first thing I said to my girlfriend was 'never again'.

Can't wait for Dublin

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Quick synopsis:
got up at 5:50am Sunday morning, collected (already awake) pink baby en route to kitchen and had a half-hearted bowl of porridge. Pink baby finished it off.
Put her in front of TV (straight from page 5 of "How to be a Below Average Parent") and went to sort out my gear.
Shock (& horror) awaited for me when I got to the boot of my car! Only 1 of my running shoes was to be found. I searched & searched in vain, thinking that it was just a matter of time before I found it. Maybe my wife hid it in a sneaky attempt to thwart my participation in the race. Not her style. Finally accepted that it was gone (must have fallen from my bag last Friday when leaving the changing room - and I know, my gear should have been sorted at least the day before...).
I had an old pair of "runners" in the garage. These were suitable for indoor soccer, a game of tennis, even walking - almost a fashion item; I did wear them a couple of times when starting out on this running lark but paid the price (in the form of blisters). F**k it they would have to do - but it was going to be a painful 13.1 miles.
Put Pinky baby into bed with wife and told wife of the potential disaster awaiting me - "but don't you have a pair (referring to the tennis shoes), it could be worse..."

Struck off for Bantry at 6:55am. All the while with thoughts of nothing else but my (real) missing runner. Contemplated wearing my one good shoe and one of the other pair. To be honest my worries weren't just about the possible ill-effects to my feet and legs, but (vainly) I was just as worried about what the other participants would think when they saw "yer man" with the tennis shoes "God love him".

Got to (beautiful) Bantry fo 7:50am and it was truly a fantastic morning. A fleet of buses was waiting to ferry us to the start line in Glengarriff. Organisation seemed top class. I was even approached by a physio, who told me where to go for post race rub. Off we went with me hiding my feet (or more appropriately. what was on them) unber the seat. The journey to Glengarriff was scenic but it was akin to an excutioner showing the Death Row inmate the poison he was going to be injected with. The "route analysis" on the website didn't mention all of these hills?

Start area was already milling with people when our bus got there. Collected Race pack and pinned on my number. Went to the loo, and then for a small warm-up run. Did I mention that it was a beautiful morning. Of course no one noticed my "runners", but I was checking out all footwear on show. There was a few lads from local GAA clubs wearing those black runners ("God love them"). No ill-effects from the small warm up run, but the 13.1 miles still had to be negotiated. Loaded our (provided) bags into a bus for ferrying to the Finish line.
ANd then the starting formation began to assemble. Race finally got off at 9:05.

Ran in the direction of Kenmare firs and through Glengarriff park. Lovely. My gels weren't sitting well in pockets and as we were leaving the Park one of them fell out my pocket! I dashed back to get it. and held onto both until consumption time. After 1.5miles we swung around and headed for Bantry proper, back though the pictureesque Glengarriff and Hill No 1 and 3 mile marker. TFB described this hill as a drag in an earlier post - it was a 2.5 mile nasty uphill. Got to the top of this hill where a split timing mat was placed (5.3 miles?) I was joined my a girl at this stage and she told me we had 4 miles of downhill to follow. Great. We ran together for this and we gradually upped the pacefrom 8:00/mile to 7:50/mile to 7:40/mile. Glad to report that i was feeling no ill-effects fron my shoes. This girl (Mary) told me she was aiming for 1:45, and I recriprocated with 1:44. She then said she'd try and stick with me for the remainder of the race, which she did doggedly. Ifelt it only good manners to explain my footwear to her.

We hif hill after hill from mile 9 until mile 12. therse hills really were relentless, just when I thought this must be the last one, there was another one sprawled out in front of us. Dug in but the pace was suffering slightly.
Just after mile 12 the descent into Bantry began in earnest. Mary edged ahead of me(!) but I tracked her all the way. We both knew at this stage that our target times were in the bag. I got level with her again, all the while passing other runners, I said we should go for it for the final 400m nad we sprint finished to the line. I has a little bit more in the tank but ther was nothing to be gained (bar 2 seconds off my time) by passing her on the line so we crossed the line in a chp time of 1:42.18.

Anew PB for me. Thanked Mary for the compand ans she likewise. Never ran with someone like this before and it sure had its benefits. Collected my medal and 2(!) T-shirts (long story), some sports drinks, a mars bar (as many as you needed (take note Ballycotton) and a bananna. Declined the massage and retired to the car and gingerly removed my "runners" blisters were numerous but bearable, but in all honesty I cannot say that I would have run any better with my other dedicated running shoes. But having said that, a trip to John Buckley's is in order.

Pleasedwith my time but on inspection of the total results, I noticed that two guys I beat in the UCC 10K got times of 1:33.xx.
Took the gloss off my PB.

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Great report, I hope you wore black socks with your runners..fantastic excuse for a trip to buckleys though.

Running Bing Registered User

Nice thread....I'll look forward to a few good reports from the graded meets tonight.

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Went and had a bash at the 1500m graded races at Irishtown, just for something different from running on tarmac and through mud. I don't know how many they normally get turning up at these meetings but there was plenty enough for full fields in each of the 4 mens categories of 1500m races.

Woddle had told me shortly before hand of a "top tip", which he'd been told by Racing Flat I believe, of not going off too fast at the start of the race in all the excitement and that it's better to wait until the final two laps before then starting to pick people off towards the finish as everyone else tires. So with that tactic fresh in mind at the start, I found myself level at the front of the pack within the first 100 meters and was then stuck there with everyone else breathing heavily down my neck. Then at two laps to go, exactly as predicted, I started getting overtaken. There was luckily only three who went past and scampering off into the distance though and a least I then didn't have any heavy breathing that I could hear over my shoulder for the next lap. I was too scared to risk a glance over the shoulder to see if anyone was there though so just kept plodding on as fast as I dared and hoping that I wasn't slowing too much over the next lap.

Then the bell came and around that point silverside, who we'd been chatting to before hand, went past me. I had no idea who else was potentially close behind so just tried my best to keep on going, but at least the wind was behind us along the back straight so I was just trying to see if I could save anything at all for the last hundred. Round the last bend, ready to try for a final kick, then I realise that were going back into the head wind again. I did somehow manage to find a little bit more from somewhere and manage to just pip silverside to the line and come in fourth.

The winners stopped the clock at 4:37, but I'd not bothered with using my own watch so not yet sure what time I got other than it was just under 5 minutes. It's been a very, very long time since I was doing any track races, but that was fun, I think.

I expect I'll be back to have a go at some more of them when I get a chance.

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my first graded meet (and first 1500 in many years, i was a road / hill runner previously)

was impressed by the turnout for all the mens and womens races, our race started more-or-less on schedule, it was a windy though mild day, the rain thankfully restricted itself to no more than a spatter until after we finished

was pacing this partly off my garmin, had thought i could do 4:55 and aimed for better, so started out fairly fast (with the leaders) and by the first 200 settled into 5:10 mile pacing, was glad to be in a group. Once the front pack broke away, I slowed slightly, think both I and robinph were steady for the last 700 , for me it was a struggle as my legs did not feel springy at all. tried to kick in the last lap but i was maxed out by then; tried to stick with robinph as he edged past but he was too strong.

all considered, 4:59 on a windy night was about what I could have expected, but am still slightly disappointed. I suppose my time was not helped by a weekend of mid-paced mountain orienteering ending on Monday - had I had 2 days off beforehand and maybe a freshener session, I reckon I could have shaved a couple of seconds better

anyway I chatted to a few club coaches (and of course robinph and woddle); I think with upping my mileage gradually and doing shorter reps a 4:40 is in reach, maybe next year - dont wanna take things too quickly.

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silverside said:

anyway I chatted to a few club coaches (and of course robinph and woddle); I think with upping my mileage gradually and doing shorter reps a 4:40 is in reach, maybe next year - dont wanna take things too quickly.

Thats what I love about the sport. Talking crap and rubbish (most of the time) and times and results and performances and training with anyone who will listen, giving and taking advice, potentially helping your rivals and them helping you and all looking to the next race and the next season.

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Tingle said:
Thats what I love about the sport. Talking crap and rubbish (most of the time) and times and results and performances and training with anyone who will listen, giving and taking advice, potentially helping your rivals and them helping you and all looking to the next race and the next season.

my only outlet for this type of sh*t talk is here , NO ONE else want to know ( OH thinks im obsessed , )so i dont even go there,

Eliwallach , great report , very funny

eliwallach Registered User

Seres said:
NO ONE else want to know ( OH thinks im obsessed , )so i dont even go there,

I hear ya brother......

kennyb3 Registered User

Well where do i start with this one, still dont think i ve calmed down since after the race. This was my first ever race and i was so nervous and didnt know what to expect. Firstly id like to say thanks to Le Cheile AC for a lovely race, especially as they somehow managed to get the rain to stop just before the run started!! With it being my first race im no expert but this seemed well organised and very friendly.

Also want to say thanks to peckham (as my mentor) as he was the one who encouraged me to finally bite the bullet and sign up for a race. My god im glad i did!! cant wait for the next one already

Race Summary

Did a time of 19.40, although that not official yet but it was called out as i crossed the finish line. All i can say is its amazing what ADRENALIN can do, this was such an adrenalin rush. i ve run a 21:21 and a 20:54 in training so this smashed by training pb by 1 min 26seconds and abolutely annihilated by predicted time of 21:30 to 22 mins.

the km splits were:

3:49, 4:00, 3:59, 4:02, 3:50

The course to me seemed quite fast, i know there was discussion about this on the race thread but to me km 1.5 to 3.7 was flat or steady down hill, there was about 800m uphill after that, but overall you were going downhill to me for much longer and picking up time. i would highly recommend this course for a pb attempt. altho given people thought it was a little hilly in place and the wind affected the times negatively im very encouraged that i can go faster again. The 400m grass track at the end is obviously also slower but its a really nice touch as those who came to show support, such as my GF, could see us run for a bit and finish the race.

Pre Race

I drove down the M50 in a deluge and was wondering why i was such an idiot for dragging myself out of bed to run around in a circle to get drownded. Have to say when i arrived i was a complete nervous wreck, going to the bathroom every 5 mins and not having a clue what to expect. Thankfully the weather cleared up just before the race. Did a nice warm up and got into line already to go.

The Race Itself

Probably positioned myself a little too high up at the start, but just didnt wanna risk getting stuck behind people and i like to run hard from the start and hold on for such a short race.

The 1st km is a bit of a blur. I went bit too fast really, i just got caught up in the excitement. The first hill seemed like nothing - i barely remember it, only when i was driving home did i realise it was quite stiff. i actually spent the time running up it thinking fair play to he 2 lads at the top who were cheering on people. After half a km i checked the time on my forerunner - i remeber it saying something like 1:43 and i just thought holy **** im going way to fast and im going to pay for this later.

So i tried to steady myself and try find my correct position in the race. i stepped off the gas and just focused on running my own pace and race. The 1st km went by at 3:49 - i was still scared!! i usually run about 4:10 to 4:15 at best in training - in fact i had always found it really difficult to do under a 4min km unless it was my last one and i was giving it absoultely everything.

so for next few 2km i checked my watch at the half km mark, generally going through it too fast and then just easing back a bit thinking i might pay for this later and not to be stupid. kept teling myself 'you ve 3 more km to run dont be going nuts'. still i knew i was fairly flying.

having people in front of you and behind of you really helps. i kept a few people ahead within the same distance and just kept trying to hang on to them. actually that reminds me at the 2km mark this girl just breezed past me like i wasnt there. it was a bit of a shock the way she went past but i knew i had my own race to run. i never let her get out of my sights tho which really helped.

anyway i got to 3km and knew i was on to break my old training pb so i just kept going, trying not to think bout sub 20. i got to the bottom of the hill and there were few ahead i wanted to catch. the last km of my training route is a nice steady hill and i really feel this helped. i motored up the hill and went past a few people who were suffering and panting like mad. A good steady pace up them really helps. i was starting to hurt at this stage too. km 4 road marker came up and i spotted lidl and i knew i was nearly there and on for a sub 20.

i was determined not to miss out and decided to push on a bit. entering into the complex really helped and people cheering was great. i saw my gf and pushed on some more. about 300m out (too far) i upped the gears, i was in serious pain now and dying for the line. my spurt came to an end a good 100m short of the line and i coulnt wait for that line to come, i like collapsing at this stage. i actually wrongly stopped 10m in front of the line and had to get going again. (must remeber not to do that again - was pretty idiotic)

19:40 was called out, i stopped the forerunner few more seconds after at 19:47!! What a first race. loved it, cant believe i ran that much faster than training. like i said adrenalin is something else. for every km to be just bout at or under 4min per km pace, im truly amazed!! i havent stopped thinking bout the race since the minute i finished it. I loved every second of it!

I cant wait to race again!! I still havent come down of the ceiling, it might be a few days. honestly thought it would take me at least 6months to go sub 20. first of my big goals down!! hopefully this wasnt just a super fast course and a one off

roll on adamstown in 2 weeks, im hooked..........

Final Result: 19:40, 41st out of 151. not too bad!!

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another world Registered User

Great thread idea. Could it be Stickied, or would that be too many stickies?

hawkwing Registered User

Bulmers 10k Clonmel--Race Summary

never did a race in my home county before so it was going to be a first.saw on the local paper that it was marked in miles and not km's which i found strange but at least i knew beforehand.I didn't have much knowledge of the course so thought a pb was on the cards.Set off going fairly strong for me and the weather was nice for a change.Was hoping for a sub 4840 PB from Great Run.Was going about 8mins and no sign of a marker so thought they were missing and this threw me as i didn't know how i was going.But then the 2 marker appeared and was at 15:48 so not too bad (must have missed the first mile one).
Then things started to happen ----saw a sign on the side of the road "are you ready for the hill?"--as i train on the kyber in the park and actually like hills i thought bring it on.Started to go up it then and came around a corner and looked up and could most of those ahead almost stopped and some walking,more signs on the roadside saying "c'mon take off your brakes!". Passed a few who were dying and i wasn't much better and knew a pb was out the window and as i did not know what lay ahead was wondering would i even get around!!Eventually got to the top--seemed about .5 to .75miles but VERY steep and warm at this stage. Then coming back down there were signs saying "check your brakes" etc as we came down,one hairpin like bend was almost too hard to take.
Got to 5k which was marked at 2500 exact by my watch so at least a sub 50 was on.The rest was flat enough and tried to stay with a couple (a Russian i discovered who ran 2'47" in Dublin last year but seemed to be coaching a girl beside him who may have been his wife from looking at the results later on) and came in just behind them in 48'57" on my watch so happy enough.
Race Review
Very enjoyable with about 350 taking part.Only 10eu to enter --bulmers race t-shirt,goody bag--water,apple,chocolate,crisps. 2 water stops and at finish and results up that night and accurate.Pictures to follow on a website.The hill kind of made it special as i never saw people of probably sub 50min standard walking after 2 miles!!(also the signs erected were funny)
At 10euro it puts some other races in a different light in my mind and i will definitely do it again and would highly recommend this one.

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Promised the OH that I wouldn't be racing on a Sunday again until the Cork City Marathon relay (although that is a Monday...), so when she asked me to paint (undercoat and satin finish) 3 doors on Saturday the bargaining began. Long story short - she agreed to the race no problem but they were all (she, me and the two babies) coming.
Race was starting at 12:30 so we set off at 10:15 and made good time. The plan was to drop me in Villierstown and then for them to head into either Youghal or Dungarvan for a playground and/or McDonalds (needs must). The weather wasn't great. All around there were ominous grey and black clouds and the rain was intermittent.
Got to Villierstown for 11:45 grabbed a few essentials from the boot and bade farewell to le famille. They weren't gone long when I realised that I had frogotten my water bottle... and my watch... and my gels. I really must get into the habit of preparing the night before. The water was replacable and there would surely be time callers at the mile markers and as for the gels maybe they had a placebo effect on me...
Villierstown itself was a very picturesque West Waterford protestant hamlet. Very nice. Registration took place in the town hall (a converted Protestant church) and was quick. Picked up goody bag (apple, orange, flapjack, water and very nice Adidas t-shirt) and pinned on my number & chip (am I the only person for whom it takes an eternity to pin on my number? I'm all thumbs). Quick warm-up run, spent a penny, a few stretches and down to the start area. At this stage the sun was breaking through and would continue to do so for the duration of the race (reports from Dungarvan [for that is where they went] was that the heavens opened during this time). Met the man himself (No, not Woddle, but the great JT) at the start area and asked him (foolishly) what time he was hoping for, "don't care" he said "just running a nice flat race on a nice day", I felt lik a pillock. Then told him that I had gotten his autograph all of 29 years previously. He looked non-plussed and sildled away to some more runners (presumably for some sane conversation).
Before I knew it we were off. This was going to be my last stab at a 10 mile race for a long time (next Jan?) so inwardly I was telling myself to have a right go at breaking 70min (my current PB was 73.12 from Ballycotton) as that is one of my long/medium term goals. I was sort of in denial about the whole thing though. Plan was to go out hard (for me) and to see how I felt at 5 of 6 miles. First mile in 6:54, but ther was no idling or hanging around. Mile 2 in 13:49 in "undulating countryside". A very welcome stretch of downhill for mile 3. There was no time caller at 3 mile marker and I was isolated in the field so couldn't even ask someone what pace we were at. But I felt like I was maintaining a sub 7min/mile pace. 4 miles in 27:02 (a PB by 1:18 !!) but I was beginning to feel the pinch. Followed by a small uphill - a group of 5 runners then passed me but I hung on to them for the duration of the hill. Left them off then.
Half way in 34:06 (a PB by 29 sec !!). I was still very much on course for the holy grail of the sub 70min but I was very aware of the uphill stretches (despite JT's assertions of a flat course) from mile 6.5 to 8. Pace was really beginning to pinch at this stage but all of a sudden we were at mile 6 (I have no evidence that I PB'ed at 10K but I can strongly assume that I did). We took a southerly turn back towards Villierstown at this stage and passed through very exotic gates (Dromana) and the uphill section began. It wasn't too bad at first but the gradient slowly increased and continued on for 11/2 miles. It was torrid going and everybody's pace was suffering. I was aware that my pace was slowing nut I was still passing some on that uphill stretch.
Water station and end of the hills (almost at mile 8). I did something I never do in races and stopped to take the water on board ( rather that splash 90% over my face), another guy also stopped to do likewise for the frw seconds. "I suppose our sub 70 min is gone up in smoke" I said, "yeah by 40 seconds" he replied looking at his watch. I resumed my run and took off at pace (all relative here) up the remainder of the hill. I would need two miles of 6:40 the scrape under 70 min. The majority of mile 8 to mile 9 was flat and through beautiful woodland and I was travelling well. At mile 9 the descent into Villierstown began. I tried to up my pace as best I could and lengthened my stride to let the hill carry me down into the village. I entered the village to a great recption from the crowds (there was a real carnival atmosphere in the village), but we then veered off the main street for "a lap of the square" which took us out of the village again. This was soul destroying and whatever advantage I had gained on the downhill into the village was quickly being eroded now. Hung in there as we (finally, finally) turned back towards the village. The crowds were roaring us on. I knew I was close to the 70min still as the locals were shouting on a WWac female runner just behind me who regularly finishes around the 70min mark. Turned the final bend and when I looked at the (rather small) clock at the (rather impressive) finish line I could see that (as I feared) my 70min had passed and I finally crossed the line in chip time of 70:52 (7:05 min/mile).
Initially I was devastated as this was a great chance for me to break the 70min mental barrier, but you must choose your battles carefully and I took on a course with a particularly nasty sting in it's tail.
On reflection, not a bad PB (knocked 2min 20sec off my previous PB) and 4 other (unofficial) PB's (5K, 4mile, 5 mile and 10K). Got talking to a regular at these races and he told me to train well and have a pop at the Mallow 10 mile next Jan and the 70min barrier will definitely come tumbling down. That's a long time to wait.
JT (who passed me at mile 2 incidentally) was head ass and tail of the day, and I met him again after the race:
ME: "nice flat course John, eh??"
JT: "Ha ha ha ha......"
Rolled back the years then and got JT to autograph my cap. And do you know something - it hasn't changed a bit.

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Villierstown 10 mile Summary
Similar experience to eliwallach but trying for sub 80 Blessed with the weather and decided not to wear a jacket which i was thankful for afterwards. Started near the back as the country races i find have less people slower than me % wise than Dublin and prefer passing people than being passed. Was hoping for about 82-83mins as PB was 8359 as thought i was in decent form.Start was uphill and felt the first mile went badly and watch showed 851,thought sub 85 would be a problem then!,started passing a few gradually then though and got to 5 in 4029 after a couple of 740's.Was dreading the hills that were mentioned but kept passing people and finished with 803,825,823,758,713 to come in at 8032 on my watch,20s more on chip but no start chip mat so a PB by 3m30secs.Decided to give a lash at sub 80 after 3 miles as was feeling good and delighted to come so close.Negative splits again of 4029/4003 so a sub 80 in the Frank Duffy is on!very enjoyable race and sanwiches,cake,tea at the end. :)Second water station at 8 miles was a bit far on even though i don't take any myself in races 10 or below.Expected more people though and was surprised by the absence of Bralitis,Zakis and the top Tipperary runners??

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