Cmar-Ireland Registered User
#1

The g/f and myself recently bought our first house and are getting everything ready in it. I went up to it this afternoon to do some work and discovered that some scum had stolen our oil burner . They took the one in the house next door too.
It was one of the outdoor ones. The whole thing was lifted.
Anyhow, now that I'll be getting a replacement, what is the best/most efficient one to go for?
The house is a 3 bed semi with attic conversion. Approx 1500sq/ft with 11 rads around the house.

Any suggestions

Thanks

JamesM Registered User
#2

That's bad
If you do mean everything gone, then a Grant or Firebird 50/70 or 50/90 should be fine. If it's completely outside, both do cabin-packs. If it's just the burner that's gone, I find Riello the best.
Jim.

Lex Luthor Registered User
#3

Firebird have units I think called heatpacs (slimline models)

what is this world coming to?

will your insurance cover it?

Cmar-Ireland Registered User
#4

Yeah, the whole thing was lifted. It was in a metal enclosure. TBH I don't even know the make, but it was the burner and boiler in the enclosure. Nothing left there now except wires and pipes sticking out of the concrete base.

Lex Luthor Registered User
#5

Cmar-Ireland said:
Yeah, the whole thing was lifted. It was in a metal enclosure. TBH I don't even know the make, but it was the burner and boiler in the enclosure. Nothing left there now except wires and pipes sticking out of the concrete base.


did any of the oil leak out of the tank?

Cmar-Ireland Registered User
#6

Lex Luthor said:
did any of the oil leak out of the tank?


Luckly, no. None leaked.
Pity the fúckers didn't get electrocuted with they cut the power cables

JamesM Registered User
#7

Jeeeez - Cabin-pacs are a great idea - but that would make you go back to the traditional boiler house
They are heavy -to take 2, they had to have a truck or big van of some kind.
Jim.

demanufactured Registered User
#8

your house insurance should cover that.

Cmar-Ireland Registered User
#9

Got some prices for a Grant 70-90 cabinpac. €800 for a regular and €1200 for a condensing boiler. For the extra efficiency, is it worth going for the condensing model?

Thanks

eddie73 Registered User
#10

Hello. Grant oil burners are very good indeed, but because they are so light and portable, they have become a target for theft.

you should consider getting a stanley stove in your living room or kitchen. you will get about 7kw of heat off them and when the fire goes out, the heat will remain for hours. You can get one that heats rads and a hot tank, that can burn wood pellets, solid fuel or gas.

I got my stanley disconnected in the kitchen for a grant on the outside of the house, the stanley range burned oil, was noisy and smelled of fumes, but the heat is badly missed in the house. Also I have the prospect of getting the grant boiler stolen hanging over me.

ednwireland Moderator
#11

got a grants multipass a couple of years ago didnt go with the condensing as the return temps on a standard radiator setup isnt really low enough for the condenser to work
great boiler very efficient compared to the 20 year old thing i had before anyway

Cmar-Ireland Registered User
#12

Just to update our situation. The insurance did indeed cover the loss, so the funds are safely lodged in my account.
Now I am wondering if I should put a bit of extra cash towards the 90-120 outdoor condensing boiler, or will the 50-90 be enough?
Our house is a 3 bed semi, with 12 rads. But the garage is plumbed for a rad, so it will probably be fitting one there too.

Which would be better for me?

JamesM Registered User
#13

My boiler is a 50/70 in a 3 bed semi, and that is plenty for me. I would be confident that a 90 would be fine.
Jim.

Aeneas Registered User
#14

ednwireland said:
got a grants multipass a couple of years ago didnt go with the condensing as the return temps on a standard radiator setup isnt really low enough for the condenser to work
great boiler very efficient compared to the 20 year old thing i had before anyway


Thinking of replacing my boiler. Grateful to know why a condenser does not work properly with a standard radiator setup? Also the significance of the numeric descriptions "50/70" "90/120" etc

ircoha Banned
#15

Aeneas said:
Thinking of replacing my boiler. Grateful to know why a condenser does not work properly with a standard radiator setup? Also the significance of the numeric descriptions "50/70" "90/120" etc


AFAIK1 The theory with condensing boilers is that the return temp needs to be 45 degrees C or less for the boiler to actually condense and be that extra bit more efficient.

Therefore the theory goes on to suggest that a system that was designed on maybe a return temp of 60 C will have rads sized for this: hotter water => smaller rads, so lower temp from CB will, in theory not be warm enough.

AFAIK2: 50/70 etc refers to the btu range of the different boilers with oil burners u can change the nozzle size to go from 90 to 120

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