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JohnnyNoxville · 05-06-2012, 17:21

I own an investment property for which I am up to date with the NPPR charges. I rented out my own house in 2008 as I lost my job... I now realise that I am liable for NPPR back dated to 2009 including penalties. I realise that this is my fault and I will have to pay the arrears......I am wondering does anyone know if you can pay penalties in installments ? I dont have €2,300 and the penalties are racking up every month. its a difficult situation which I am sure is being faced by plenty of people.

there is nothing on the NPPR website re installments

cookie1977 · 05-06-2012, 18:07

Would you not call them and explain. See what they say. Maybe they can do a deal.

athtrasna · 06-06-2012, 04:30

They won't reduce the amount due and interest will accrue until the charge is paid in full but they will accept the payment over time.

Limerk67 · 11-06-2012, 00:20

Did you have any joy with contacting the Council about the NPPR? Am in a situation myself but can't plead ignorance unfortunately. Living abroad a lot for last couple years so wasn't really on my mind. Anyway, just wondering if anyone managed to made a deal to pay in stages with any of the councils? Without having to keep incurring penalties???

JohnnyNoxville · 22-06-2012, 08:25

Hi sorry about the late reply. I spoke to the finance department in Fingal Co Co ...the only option is to pay this years NPPR (€200) by 30th June and then pay off the arrears in lump sum's as the arrears are costing me €60 a month now . They won't make an allowance for genuine ingnorance...you owe what you owe.

cookie1977 · 22-06-2012, 08:38

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Originally Posted by JohnnyNoxville

Hi sorry about the late reply. I spoke to the finance department in Fingal Co Co ...the only option is to pay this years NPPR (€200) by 30th June and then pay off the arrears in lump sum's as the arrears are costing me €60 a month now . They won't make an allowance for genuine ingnorance...you owe what you owe.

60 a month? Wow that's a lot. Considering penalties for the household charge are a lot smaller:

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Households paying the charge after the March 31 deadline face charges of 1 per cent interest each month, as well as flat fees of €10 for paying it within three months of the deadline.

TheDriver · 22-06-2012, 12:04

on a side issue, whats the story with 3 siblings who own their deceased parents home but none live in it. Do they each have to pay 200 or is it split amongst them?

JohnnyNoxville · 22-06-2012, 16:41

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Originally Posted by cookie1977

60 a month? Wow that's a lot. Considering penalties for the household charge are a lot smaller:

Yes it's €20 per month for every year of unpaid NPPR...so 2009, 2010 & 2011 accrues at €60 per month...very very penal

sunnysoutheast · 23-06-2012, 14:27

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Originally Posted by TheDriver

on a side issue, whats the story with 3 siblings who own their deceased parents home but none live in it. Do they each have to pay 200 or is it split amongst them?

From the website: "Liability falls on all co-owners but payment by any one co-owner discharges the liability of all co-owners."

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sunnysoutheast · 23-06-2012, 14:32

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Originally Posted by JohnnyNoxville

Yes it's €20 per month for every year of unpaid NPPR...so 2009, 2010 & 2011 accrues at €60 per month...very very penal

I was talking to a guy at an airport a while back and he said that he would rather "pay the €20 fine" if he got caught than register his "rentals". When I told him that it was €20 per month per outstanding year, and it was a legal charge on the property he went as white as a ghost.

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JohnnyNoxville · 23-06-2012, 18:10

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Originally Posted by sunnysoutheast

I was talking to a guy at an airport a while back and he said that he would rather "pay the €20 fine" if he got caught than register his "rentals". When I told him that it was €20 per month per outstanding year, and it was a legal charge on the property he went as white as a ghost.

SSE

its a horrible situation to be in but there is no getting around it.

Lord Nikon · 26-06-2012, 20:35

You can pay for each individual year, you DO NOT have to pay the lump sum. Ring them tomorrow and tell them you wish to pay for 2009, and they will except payment, then next month or whenever funds allow, pay for 2010, and so on.

I would ring sooner rather than later though, the amount is only going to go up and not down.

Kopy · 26-06-2012, 20:55

I bought a second property in Wexford and never paid the NPPR until they wrote to me last november looking for payment and stated they would bring me to court if it was not paid !
Wanted the full amount owed and would not accept staged payment.

Lord Nikon · 26-06-2012, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Kopy

I bought a second property in Wexford and never paid the NPPR until they wrote to me last november looking for payment and stated they would bring me to court if it was not paid !
Wanted the full amount owed and would not accept staged payment.

Really, highly doubt that, unless it was the County Council writing to you.

NPPR dont know who owns what properties, unless you tell them, because it's self declaration.

Also, I bet my miserable salary that you CAN pay for each year. Anyone who tells you otherwise is telling porky pies.

population · 27-06-2012, 10:09

Indeed ignorance is not a defence. I too have lived abroad for years and payed little attention to the introduction of the NPPR charge back home. Came home to find I owed 1300 euro. Contacted them to see if I could work out some arrangement. They would not budge. I eventually had to borrow money from a brother to pay it off to stop the arrears building up. I was sick as a parrot but in retrospect it was entirely my fault. Not a mistake I will repeat.

05-06-2012, 17:21	#1
JohnnyNoxville Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 40 Adverts \| Friends	NPPR - Outstanding Charges I own an investment property for which I am up to date with the NPPR charges. I rented out my own house in 2008 as I lost my job... I now realise that I am liable for NPPR back dated to 2009 including penalties. I realise that this is my fault and I will have to pay the arrears......I am wondering does anyone know if you can pay penalties in installments ? I dont have €2,300 and the penalties are racking up every month. its a difficult situation which I am sure is being faced by plenty of people. there is nothing on the NPPR website re installments

26-06-2012, 20:55	#13
Kopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 44 Adverts \| Friends	NPPR - Outstanding Charges I bought a second property in Wexford and never paid the NPPR until they wrote to me last november looking for payment and stated they would bring me to court if it was not paid ! Wanted the full amount owed and would not accept staged payment.

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05-06-2012, 18:07	#2
cookie1977 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5,473 Adverts \| Friends	Would you not call them and explain. See what they say. Maybe they can do a deal.

06-06-2012, 04:30	#3
athtrasna Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,374 Adverts \| Friends	They won't reduce the amount due and interest will accrue until the charge is paid in full but they will accept the payment over time.

11-06-2012, 00:20	#4
Limerk67 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9 Adverts \| Friends	Did you have any joy with contacting the Council about the NPPR? Am in a situation myself but can't plead ignorance unfortunately. Living abroad a lot for last couple years so wasn't really on my mind. Anyway, just wondering if anyone managed to made a deal to pay in stages with any of the councils? Without having to keep incurring penalties???

22-06-2012, 08:25	#5
JohnnyNoxville Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 40 Adverts \| Friends	Hi sorry about the late reply. I spoke to the finance department in Fingal Co Co ...the only option is to pay this years NPPR (€200) by 30th June and then pay off the arrears in lump sum's as the arrears are costing me €60 a month now . They won't make an allowance for genuine ingnorance...you owe what you owe.

22-06-2012, 12:04	#7
TheDriver Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: M8 motorway Posts: 4,453 Adverts \| Friends	on a side issue, whats the story with 3 siblings who own their deceased parents home but none live in it. Do they each have to pay 200 or is it split amongst them?

26-06-2012, 20:35	#12
Lord Nikon Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: R403 Posts: 2,798 Adverts \| Friends	You can pay for each individual year, you DO NOT have to pay the lump sum. Ring them tomorrow and tell them you wish to pay for 2009, and they will except payment, then next month or whenever funds allow, pay for 2010, and so on. I would ring sooner rather than later though, the amount is only going to go up and not down.

27-06-2012, 10:09	#15
population Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Naples Posts: 1,221 Adverts \| Friends	Indeed ignorance is not a defence. I too have lived abroad for years and payed little attention to the introduction of the NPPR charge back home. Came home to find I owed 1300 euro. Contacted them to see if I could work out some arrangement. They would not budge. I eventually had to borrow money from a brother to pay it off to stop the arrears building up. I was sick as a parrot but in retrospect it was entirely my fault. Not a mistake I will repeat.