[dublinman1990]

The recession is just making everything worse. DB gives us more worse news even in the most straightened times.

I can advise you, this would not make for fine reading.

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Cent...enalty-Update/

[Tarabuses]

Originally Posted by dublinman1990

The recession is just making everything worse. DB gives us more worse news even in the most straightened times.

I can advise you, this would not make for fine reading.

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Cent...enalty-Update/

Shouldn't affect anyone who has a valid ticket for their journey.

[lxflyer]

What's bad about it?

If people pay the correct fare then this is never an issue.

Yet another nonsensical post.

[devnull]

Originally Posted by dublinman1990

The recession is just making everything worse. DB gives us more worse news even in the most straightened times.

I can advise you, this would not make for fine reading.

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Cent...enalty-Update/

What the hell does the recession have to do this? It's hardly bad news, it's fantastic news in my opinion as this is not going to effect anyone who pays their fare and does not try and con the bus company.

I've seen a few people even on these boards saying that sure, I try and get away with not paying properly on the bus as the amount of money I save over the year is more than the 50 euro fine I could possibly get. The doubling of the fine makes it even less beneficial for such fare dodgers to do it.

I'm far from Dublin Bus' biggest fan but I don't see what anyone who pays the correct fare can see wrong with this.

[the groutch]

best decision DB has made in years, long overdue.
hopefully it will facilitate them being able to afford more inspectors.

[Losty Dublin]

I'll add my voice to those welcoming this. You can expect a blitz of inspections over the coming weeks to back this up.

[Cookie_Monster]

Can't see a downside tbh, recession has nothing to do with it apart from maybe increasing the number of chance takers. As long as it's enforced equally between everyone (unlike Luas where the scum just saunter off) I don't see a problem.

[The_Wrecker]

Great news, fare evasion is part of life on my route.

[foggy_lad]

Originally Posted by lxflyer

What's bad about it?

If people pay the correct fare then this is never an issue.

Yet another nonsensical post.

With all stage markings removed from routes and passengers having to rely on overworked drivers to keep their ticket machines updated as well as remembering fares for several routes how can any passenger guarantee getting the correct fare when they state their destination or present their prepaid ticket or Leap Card to either driver or validator?

[lxflyer]

Eh, the drivers have been keeping their ticket machines updated since 1987. Nothing new there.

And how are they overworked? They all work standard hours, and in many cases actually work less hours now due to the EU working time directive which greatly restricts the amount of overtime they can work.

Frankly why am I surprised at yet another moan for moanings sake. Do you ever stop trying to find fault with everything in life? A very sad outlook I have to say.

Anyone who legitimately told the driver where they were going is not going to be hit with a €100 fine. All the inspectors need to do is ask the driver.

This is only bad news for people who are fare evading, full stop.

[The_Wrecker]

The revenue lads are not hitting the passenger that are a few stages out. They hit my bus on the NCR recent and had sure targets in mind.

[The_Wrecker]

Originally Posted by foggy_lad

With all stage markings removed from routes and passengers having to rely on overworked drivers to keep their ticket machines updated as well as remembering fares for several routes how can any passenger guarantee getting the correct fare when they state their destination or present their prepaid ticket or Leap Card to either driver or validator?

If they state their destination, there is no reason for them not to have a correct ticket (give or take a stage) depending on regular/spare staff.

The revenue unit know the stages are an issue and can generally judge a ticket issue location by the time printed on it.

They also wont chase 1/2 stages out, but will go after the career evader.

PS cheers for the overworked remark ~ never get a minute! (at times true).

[foggy_lad]

Originally Posted by The_Wrecker

The revenue lads are not hitting the passenger that are a few stages out. They hit my bus on the NCR recent and had sure targets in mind.

Luas inspectors are doing the same, I overheard two of them talking to a woman about how they had seen her apparently tagging on and off but she could not produce a ticket when challenged.

If your ticket states Cork st and you are halfway to Tallaght(having paid to go to Tallaght) when the inspector gets on they are not going to even ask the driver, if they are like the Irish Rail RPU agents, they will just issue the fine and tewll you to appeal it!

[the groutch]

quick side question:

how do inspectors check smartcards? do they have a scanner to check when it was last validated?

[CIE]

Gotta love all the cheerleading for expanding government on here, eh. If there were a flat fare, then everyone pays the same rate and there wouldn't be the need for inspectors either; the fare evaders would be quite obvious then, since they would try to get on the bus without paying.