[Lister1]

Anyone have any idea on whether John Terry will fall foul of these new proposals with his impending court case?

If found guilty (and its a big if) I think Chelsea would look very foolish to stand by him.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...316664527.html

Racist abuse will become a sackable offence for professional footballers next season, as part of significant changes being made to every English Premier League and Football League player’s contract.

Gordon Taylor, the chief executive of the Professional Footballers’ Association (PFA), is behind the proposal that he hopes will send out a powerful message on the back of a season when racism on the pitch made an unwelcome return to English football.

Taylor said he believes the change in the standard players’ contract will highlight how seriously the PFA views racism, and remove any ambiguity about the possible consequences for anyone found guilty of the offence. Racist abuse will now be deemed as gross misconduct and, although the decision of whether to terminate a contract will ultimately rest with the player’s employers, Taylor pointed out that any club failing to act “could be held responsible for condoning [racism]”.

The PFA will present the proposal to the Professional Football Negotiating and Consultative Committee (PFNCC) and Taylor is confident that it will be approved. “We’re just about to bring it to the PFNCC, the body by which we bring the issues to the Premier League and Football League, and I don’t see a problem,” he said.

[Neil3030]

So a player unhappy at his present club could just racially abuse someone to get released from his contract?

[gnfnrhead]

Nothing will happen to Terry. It says the decision is that of the employers. If Terry is found guilty Chelsea won't sack him unless they have no other option. He'll likely just be fined by the club, maybe suspended.

[citytillidie]

We all know nothing will happen to Terry

[GavRedKing]

In some cases a club will sack a player, e.g. a youth player found guility of it, in our case, I cant see the club sacking their captain or any club, I dont think they'll sack one of their star players.

Bans and fines should be extreme and police investigations should be followed up with court proceedings if necessary.

[Lister1]

Originally Posted by gnfnrhead

Nothing will happen to Terry. It says the decision is that of the employers. If Terry is found guilty Chelsea won't sack him unless they have no other option. He'll likely just be fined by the club, maybe suspended.

Will make a mockery of the introduction of the new proposals if they weren't sack him and would set a precedence for any other cases that may follow. Why should other clubs sack a player when the precedence has been set?

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It means the clubs CAN sack the player, it doesn't mean they WILL.

For example, Liverpool probably wouldn't have sacked Suarez, because they didn't believe him to be guilty.

[gerryo777]

I wonder how many players evra will get sacked next season, considering it seems to be one players word against another.

[maximoose]

Originally Posted by gerryo777

I wonder how many players evra will get sacked next season, considering it seems to be one players word against another.

Yawn.

[GavRedKing]

Originally Posted by Des

It means the clubs CAN sack the player, it doesn't mean they WILL.

For example, Liverpool probably wouldn't have sacked Suarez, because they didn't believe him to be guilty.

This, no club will sack their big stars, and surely every club will back their player, pending the outcome of any investigation.

[_blank_]

Originally Posted by gerryo777

I wonder how many players evra will get sacked next season, considering it seems to be one players word against another.

for fúck sake

[_blank_]

Originally Posted by gavredking

This, no club will sack their big stars, and surely every club will back their player, pending the outcome of any investigation.

I'd agree with this, BUT if John Terry is found guilty in a proper court, not some "balance of probability" FA trial, then Chelsea would look pretty bad, imo, if they didn't at least sanction the player.

[Will I Amnt]

Originally Posted by gerryo777

I wonder how many players evra will get sacked next season, considering it seems to be one players word against another.

I wonder when the day will come that gerryo777 actually adds any sort of intelligent input to a thread.

[GavRedKing]

Originally Posted by Des

I'd agree with this, BUT if John Terry is found guilty in a proper court, not some "balance of probability" FA trial, then Chelsea would look pretty bad, imo, if they didn't at least sanction the player.

I agree with ya, there should be no grey area with racism, if your found guility it should be a set fine/ban imposed by the club and sanctioned by the FA.

If JT's found guility he'll probably end up appearing on Chelsea TV on some coaching day with under privileaged kids from ethnic backgrounds or soemthing to that degree to make it seem all rosey.

JT's case is in essence a bigger case then the one earlier in the season but why it wasnt dealt with at the time was a joke IMO.

[recylingbin]

Originally Posted by gerryo777

I wonder how many players evra will get sacked next season, considering it seems to be one players word against another.

Fergie is drawing up a list for him now.