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Jelly 292 · 30-04-2012, 18:05

Hi,

I have moved into a new place and I am a bit stumped by the way the landlady is working out the rent.

The place is €500 per month.

She wanted paying weekly at €125 per week. €500 per month works out at €115 does it not?

So I paid my first rent the other day ( after deposit and month ahead had passed) I paid her the €500 in one go. She has marked next rent day down as 4 weeks away, and then every 4 weeks after that. I am sure this is not right to pay a months rent every 4 weeks. This means in a year I pay 13 rents instead of 12. This cannot be correct can it?

I work out my rent on €500 x 12 months / 52 weeks= €115

Every 4 weeks works out as 52 weeks / 4 = 13 monthly payments of €500

I am sure she is in the wrong here but I needed to run it passed you guys in case I am being a complete doo-doo and have missed something stupid!

Thanks for your help

AnonoBoy · 30-04-2012, 18:08

If the landlord quoted the rent as monthly then you should pay monthly.

They're trying to pull a fast one.

If you moved in on the 25th for example you should pay one month's rent on the 25th of every month.

Are you paying in cash? Did they supply you with a rent book?

I would suggest you get their bank details and pay into their account so there's a record.

Maglight · 30-04-2012, 18:09

The key point here is what is in your rental contract. If it specifies a monthly payment then you are correct. If it specifies that rent is payable every four weeks then she is correct. Check the contract

peter_dublin · 30-04-2012, 18:11

Rent should be taken as "per calendar month" that is the four weeks and additional days that make up a calendar month. I would raise it now saying a month is four weeks and so may days (two or three) and you will pay on the 25th of every "calender" month and not every four weeks. So yes they are chancing their arm or just stupid. But before you do anything check your contract.

Jelly 292 · 30-04-2012, 18:12

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The key point here is what is in your rental contract. If it specifies a monthly payment then you are correct. If it specifies that rent is payable every four weeks then she is correct. Check the contract

Thanks for replies. I just checked contract and it specifies a month is a 4 weekly period.

So a months rent is really €540 and I aint got a leg to stand on?

ABajaninCork · 30-04-2012, 18:13

Sorry, wrong thread!

Jelly 292 · 30-04-2012, 18:15

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500/4 is 125, OP

I know thats what she wants, 500 a month is normally 115 but it seams I have not read small print

AnonoBoy · 30-04-2012, 18:17

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Originally Posted by Jelly 292

Thanks for replies. I just checked contract and it specifies a month is a 4 weekly period.

So a months rent is really €540 and I aint got a leg to stand on?

Can they redefine the calendar in a contract?

edellc · 30-04-2012, 18:17

yeah the devils in the small print OP lesson learned for next time unfortunately no help now

subway · 30-04-2012, 18:17

You go by the contract .unless you feel e deliberately misled you in negotiations?

GarIT · 30-04-2012, 18:18

A month is a set period of time, no contract can change what a month means.

If that was the case I could rent out a place say the rent is €100 per week and that my week is two days long.

subway · 30-04-2012, 18:18

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Originally Posted by GarIT

A month is a set period of time no contract can change what a month means.

If that was the case I could rent out a place say the rent is €100 per week and that my week is two days long.

Read the thread?

GarIT · 30-04-2012, 18:20

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Originally Posted by subway

Read the thread?

I have done, and I'm saying there is not contract in Ireland that can change how long a month lasts.

Jelly 292 · 30-04-2012, 18:23

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I have done, and I'm saying there is not contract in Ireland that can change how long a month lasts.

This is the nub, can they advertise saying its 500 per months and then charge 540 a month through their small print??

AnonoBoy · 30-04-2012, 18:24

I think they were being deliberately misleading to make the place sound cheaper.

Really the place is 541 euro per month not 500.

You might be able to get out of the lease based on that. Possibly. You would need to talk to Threshold about it.

30-04-2012, 18:05	#1
Jelly 292 Closed Account Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 765 Adverts \| Friends	Am I paying rent to often? Hi, I have moved into a new place and I am a bit stumped by the way the landlady is working out the rent. The place is €500 per month. She wanted paying weekly at €125 per week. €500 per month works out at €115 does it not? So I paid my first rent the other day ( after deposit and month ahead had passed) I paid her the €500 in one go. She has marked next rent day down as 4 weeks away, and then every 4 weeks after that. I am sure this is not right to pay a months rent every 4 weeks. This means in a year I pay 13 rents instead of 12. This cannot be correct can it? I work out my rent on €500 x 12 months / 52 weeks= €115 Every 4 weeks works out as 52 weeks / 4 = 13 monthly payments of €500 I am sure she is in the wrong here but I needed to run it passed you guys in case I am being a complete doo-doo and have missed something stupid! Thanks for your help

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30-04-2012, 18:08	#2
AnonoBoy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16,416 Adverts \| Friends	If the landlord quoted the rent as monthly then you should pay monthly. They're trying to pull a fast one. If you moved in on the 25th for example you should pay one month's rent on the 25th of every month. Are you paying in cash? Did they supply you with a rent book? I would suggest you get their bank details and pay into their account so there's a record.

30-04-2012, 18:09	#3
Maglight Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 226 Adverts \| Friends	The key point here is what is in your rental contract. If it specifies a monthly payment then you are correct. If it specifies that rent is payable every four weeks then she is correct. Check the contract

30-04-2012, 18:11	#4
peter_dublin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 189 Adverts \| Friends	Rent should be taken as "per calendar month" that is the four weeks and additional days that make up a calendar month. I would raise it now saying a month is four weeks and so may days (two or three) and you will pay on the 25th of every "calender" month and not every four weeks. So yes they are chancing their arm or just stupid. But before you do anything check your contract.

30-04-2012, 18:13	#6
ABajaninCork Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,153 Adverts \| Friends	Sorry, wrong thread!

30-04-2012, 18:17	#9
edellc Closed Account Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,734 Adverts \| Friends	yeah the devils in the small print OP lesson learned for next time unfortunately no help now

30-04-2012, 18:17	#10
subway Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,546 Adverts \| Friends	You go by the contract .unless you feel e deliberately misled you in negotiations?

30-04-2012, 18:18	#11
GarIT Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,361 Adverts \| Friends	A month is a set period of time, no contract can change what a month means. If that was the case I could rent out a place say the rent is €100 per week and that my week is two days long.

30-04-2012, 18:24	#15
AnonoBoy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16,416 Adverts \| Friends	I think they were being deliberately misleading to make the place sound cheaper. Really the place is 541 euro per month not 500. You might be able to get out of the lease based on that. Possibly. You would need to talk to Threshold about it.