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28-04-2012, 17:36   #1
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Water changes

Just wondering what way you guys do you water changes. I've always syphoned the water out of the tank into the container, refilled with cold water, brought the temperature up with hot water, add the conditioner, leave for a few minutes then tip into the tank. I've never had a problem doing that way.

I was recently reading another forum and a lot of people add the fresh water to tank then add the conditioner to the tank. I was actually shocked people did it that way as I always thought the chlorine would kill the bacteria straight away. Some of these people are keeping fish years and never had a problem.
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I'm currently doing a small WC every couple of days since I accidentally forgot to add the condtioner first, just in case.

Usually I drain the water into a bucket, dump that into the flower bed, put the conditioner in the bucket, fill it with water at the right temperature from the tap, and syphon it back into the tank.
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I'm currently doing a small WC every couple of days since I accidentally forgot to add the condtioner first, just in case.

Usually I drain the water into a bucket, dump that into the flower bed, put the conditioner in the bucket, fill it with water at the right temperature from the tap, and syphon it back into the tank.
How do you manage that?
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Just wondering what way you guys do you water changes. I've always syphoned the water out of the tank into the container, refilled with cold water, brought the temperature up with hot water, add the conditioner, leave for a few minutes then tip into the tank. I've never had a problem doing that way.

I was recently reading another forum and a lot of people add the fresh water to tank then add the conditioner to the tank. I was actually shocked people did it that way as I always thought the chlorine would kill the bacteria straight away. Some of these people are keeping fish years and never had a problem.
This is exactly what I do. Never had any issues.
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Check out THIS thread. Most went for option B, which surprised me.
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But they'd need more conditioner that way, since they'd have to add enough for the whole tank, rather than for the water they're replacing

Baffles me, I would never put untreated water near my tank. Chlorine other water extras are not something I'm willing to risk.
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But they'd need more conditioner that way, since they'd have to add enough for the whole tank, rather than for the water they're replacing

Baffles me, I would never put untreated water near my tank. Chlorine other water extras are not something I'm willing to risk.
I really don't get it myself. Another thing, there's a piece of equipment called a 'python' that connects to your tap. It comes with a hose that goes in your tank and when the tap is turned on it sucks the water from tank. Then you reverse the procedure and directly fill the tank from the tap. These things are extremely popular. Doesn't make sense to me.
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I really don't get it myself. Another thing, there's a piece of equipment called a 'python' that connects to your tap. It comes with a hose that goes in your tank and when the tap is turned on it sucks the water from tank. Then you reverse the procedure and directly fill the tank from the tap. These things are extremely popular. Doesn't make sense to me.
I've seen a similar thing for sale in a few places, Mr S wanted to get one but I've stuck to my guns on this one. No untreated water hits my tanks, however convenient it might be!

It might be okay in places where the water is 100%, but there's so much in water that's harmful to fish - metals, ammonia traces and nitrates in some places, chlorine, chlorosamines and all sorts of things. Chances are it may be fine, for a long time, but all it needs is for some mistake in the water (like Galway, for example, or Cumbria) and they've wiped out all their fish from putting the water directly from the tap into the tank. Might be alright if they're not attached or haven't spent a fortune building up their stock, and can just say "oh well all the fish died lol better buy something even better" and everything will truck along fine til the next time the water from the tap is less than perfect.
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Yeah, I think when you spend a lot of money on fish, you'll surely look after them more.
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I bought 2 identical 15L buckets in tesco (3 squid each). They have litre markings on the inside so i can work out the exact percentage water change.
I keep one bucket with 15-20% of the tank volume treated with conditioner under the tank so its at a decent temp for the weekly changes.
The second bucket is just for the dirty water. I siphon the dirty water out of the tank into this bucket up to the same mark as the clean treated water.
Then, open up the filter and rinse it in the old tank water bucket (Tap water would kill the beneficial bacteria in the filter)
Next i slowly pour the new water into tank and add a top up of bacteria.
And thats my method
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I just syphon the water straight out the sittingroom window then refill it with the hose. I have had the tank for a year and the only fish ive lost were eaten. They have never been sick not even ick. But when im refilling it i keep adding seachem prime every few minutes. Its better than wrecking the floor dragging 80 liter buckets out the door.
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I siphon the water out in a container so I can check for shrimplets that were sucked in, then refill from a wheelie bin using a pump. I actually have a JBL aqua in-out and was willing to give it a try, but couldn't find an adapter for my tap. I figured out that so many people are using it and is actually produced by a reputable name in fishkeeping, can't be a bad thing.
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So you guys pump fresh tap water straight onto the tank? Surely the chlorine will kill the bacteria thus breaking down the natural cycle in the tank.

I suppose if you're changing a lot of water regularly it will keep the nasty stuff's levels down.

I'm the complete opposite. Tap water is the devil to me. I won't let a drop of it near the tank, not even on my hands.
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I've 4 x 20L containers.

Fill 2 and add conditioner and use spare 300w heater to bring them up to temp, give about 30 mins in each.
Syphon water out into the other two and them empty the first two in the tank.

Allows 40L of ~220L to be changed in less than 5 mins apart from heating time.
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I thought this thread was about water charges.
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brought the temperature up with hot water
Realise that boiling water reduces the dissolved oxygen to zero.

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