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Psygnosis · 21-02-2012, 18:37

Article below
http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms...fibre-rollout/

So we know they have started already in wexford and parts of south dublin.

Would anyone have a schedule of when the rollout and what towns are set to go live on dates.
How exactly are they doing it setting up small cabinets outsides people estated where I presume fibre will go to from the main exchange. These cabinets will then provide the internet to the house over the existing copper is this correct.

bealtine · 21-02-2012, 23:41

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Originally Posted by Psygnosis

Would anyone have a schedule of when the rollout and what towns are set to go live on dates.
How exactly are they doing it setting up small cabinets outsides people estated where I presume fibre will go to from the main exchange. These cabinets will then provide the internet to the house over the existing copper is this correct.

There is a list of the 10 exchanges to be upgraded on the eircom wholesale website.
Basically they change the cable from your local green cabinet back to the exchange with a fibre, copper runs from the cabinet to your house. This is known as FTTC.

Sponge Bob · 22-02-2012, 01:03

In the UK the ratio between homes with fibre an homes with fibre to the box at the bottom of the road is around 1 in 10...with the 10 getting the slower tech.

eircom will have upgraded around 15 out of their 1200 exchanges by the end of 2012 and in so doing they will still miss people by their own admission.

Most of those who will be upgraded will have fibre near the house, not in it.

Solair · 22-02-2012, 01:05

Well, with the way the eircom debt mountain is, a better resourced company might be running the show by 2015.

Sponge Bob · 22-02-2012, 01:13

eircom are Janus, telling their senior bondholders they will get their money back (they won't) while telling their customers that proper broadband is coming soon ( it ain't)

UPC will destroy them by end 2014 and UPC are, frankly, crap.

long_b · 22-02-2012, 06:58

I take it this will only benefit those who can currently get a decent speed on their copper lines ?

bealtine · 22-02-2012, 08:51

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Originally Posted by long_b

I take it this will only benefit those who can currently get a decent speed on their copper lines ?

Not really, as the length of the line will now be only from the local cabinet to your house, the cabinet will be fed by fibre. The speed will be determined by your distance from the local cabinet.So if you live a long distance from the local cabinet you won't get full speed.

Ranicand · 22-02-2012, 08:56

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Originally Posted by bealtine

Not really, as the length of the line will now be only from the local cabinet to your house, the cabinet will be fed by fibre. The speed will be determined by your distance from the local cabinet.So if you live a long distance from the local cabinet you won't get full speed.

UPC works in a similar way only the last bit is coaxial cable rather then copper?

If the backbone of Eircoms network was fiber it would be a vast improvement on what is there now.

**Praetorian** · 22-02-2012, 10:47

The 10-15 exchanges that people have mentioned, are these the already rolled out exchanges in south co dublin and wexford?

MrO · 22-02-2012, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Psygnosis

How exactly are they doing it

I'll bet that's a question most of the engineering staff in eircom are asking themselves - hard to 'reach' 1m homes when you haven't got a washer.

Unless of course by 'reach' you mean that fibre will be somewhere in the same postcode as your house. In which case I'm sure they'll hit the targets :-)

nilhg · 22-02-2012, 14:03

Anyone have an idea of the sort of costs involved in doing this for Eircom per cab/exchange, assuming that no civils are involved because ducting is in situ already.

Am I correct in assuming that fiber is point to point, that it's not possible to "tap into" an existing fibre "cable". In my case the trunk cable comes out to Rathangan from Kildare following the road, at its nearest it's less than a KM from the cabinet serving my house, which is almost 3Km from the exchange.

iMuse · 22-02-2012, 14:04

How close would you need to be to a cabinet to receive decent speeds like 25meg? My line can only handle about 3 meg at the minute so If I could get anywhere near 20 I would be delighted. I'm in 1 of towns listed in the phase 1 rollout and there's no UPC available.

To_be_confirmed · 22-02-2012, 14:13

There are quite a number of cabinets that are poorly placed and end up serving villages or areas which are nowhere near the cabinet itself. Rural towns and villages that might otherwise benefit from being connected to larger exchanges are going to lose out when the cabinet that serves them all is still 3km away.

iMuse · 22-02-2012, 14:22

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Originally Posted by nilhg

Anyone have an idea of the sort of costs involved in doing this for Eircom per cab/exchange, assuming that no civils are involved because ducting is in situ already.

Am I correct in assuming that fiber is point to point, that it's not possible to "tap into" an existing fibre "cable". In my case the trunk cable comes out to Rathangan from Kildare following the road, at its nearest it's less than a KM from the cabinet serving my house, which is almost 3Km from the exchange.

They announced they are spending 5 million on upgrading letterkenny but it depends how far they are going with the fibre. What does an eircom cabinet look like, how big is it?

Nothingbetter2d · 22-02-2012, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Ranicand

UPC works in a similar way only the last bit is coaxial cable rather then copper?

If the backbone of Eircoms network was fiber it would be a vast improvement on what is there now.

coaxial cable is still made from copper though.

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Psygnosis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rush Posts: 1,145 Adverts \| Friends	Eircom fibre rollout – plans to reach 1m homes in three years Article below http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms...fibre-rollout/ So we know they have started already in wexford and parts of south dublin. Would anyone have a schedule of when the rollout and what towns are set to go live on dates. How exactly are they doing it setting up small cabinets outsides people estated where I presume fibre will go to from the main exchange. These cabinets will then provide the internet to the house over the existing copper is this correct.

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Sponge Bob Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location Location Posts: 24,839 Adverts \| Friends	In the UK the ratio between homes with fibre an homes with fibre to the box at the bottom of the road is around 1 in 10...with the 10 getting the slower tech. eircom will have upgraded around 15 out of their 1200 exchanges by the end of 2012 and in so doing they will still miss people by their own admission. Most of those who will be upgraded will have fibre near the house, not in it.

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Solair Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,910 Adverts \| Friends	Well, with the way the eircom debt mountain is, a better resourced company might be running the show by 2015.

22-02-2012, 01:13	#5
Sponge Bob Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location Location Posts: 24,839 Adverts \| Friends	eircom are Janus, telling their senior bondholders they will get their money back (they won't) while telling their customers that proper broadband is coming soon ( it ain't) UPC will destroy them by end 2014 and UPC are, frankly, crap.

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long_b Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,393 Adverts \| Friends	I take it this will only benefit those who can currently get a decent speed on their copper lines ?

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Praetorian Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,165 Adverts \| Friends Mod: English	The 10-15 exchanges that people have mentioned, are these the already rolled out exchanges in south co dublin and wexford?

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nilhg Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Rathangan, Co. Kildare Posts: 3,245 Adverts \| Friends	Anyone have an idea of the sort of costs involved in doing this for Eircom per cab/exchange, assuming that no civils are involved because ducting is in situ already. Am I correct in assuming that fiber is point to point, that it's not possible to "tap into" an existing fibre "cable". In my case the trunk cable comes out to Rathangan from Kildare following the road, at its nearest it's less than a KM from the cabinet serving my house, which is almost 3Km from the exchange.

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iMuse Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cydonia Posts: 3,482 Adverts \| Friends	How close would you need to be to a cabinet to receive decent speeds like 25meg? My line can only handle about 3 meg at the minute so If I could get anywhere near 20 I would be delighted. I'm in 1 of towns listed in the phase 1 rollout and there's no UPC available.

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To_be_confirmed Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,460 Adverts \| Friends	There are quite a number of cabinets that are poorly placed and end up serving villages or areas which are nowhere near the cabinet itself. Rural towns and villages that might otherwise benefit from being connected to larger exchanges are going to lose out when the cabinet that serves them all is still 3km away.