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Ernest · 10-01-2012, 09:23

I hear on the radio this morning that Dublin City Council have abandoned their household bin collection and outsourced it to Greyhound (I think they do green bin collection already) Who decided this and why? I did not see any discussion about it anywhere. What happens to the existing Dublin City Council Staff who were employed in this task up to now? Are they all just made redundant? It cannot be called redundancy, surely, if an employer decides to outsource an existing activity which is not itself discontinued.
Also the radio report stated that Greyhound would not entertain any more claims for waivers of waste collection charges and would only honour existing waivers for one year!! Surely that is not a decision to be taken by a private outsource company but is part of national policy. Dublin City Council are presumably the statutory body responsible for waste collection and for the implementation of national policy on charges and waivers. Isn't it time for the City Manager's office to make a public statement on the whole affair. As for the elected council members - what have they been doing here??? Have they approved all of this??

stevensi · 10-01-2012, 10:17

There will be flytipping galore because of this!!!

Dirk Gently · 10-01-2012, 10:23

I assume collections are still taking place on regular days (i.e my bin is sitting outside my garden at home at the moment).

Surprised there was no notification of this. One monopoly to another. competition doesnt really work with bin collecting as whole areas are auctioned off. you still end up with one service provider.

Meauldsegosha · 10-01-2012, 10:34

So annoyed at the moment, got up this morning to find that some f*cker had put their rubbish bags in and beside my bin.

If they are privatising the collections you can bet the charges will go up.

**January** · 10-01-2012, 10:57

Fingal have done the same with Panda, Panda increased their prices in-line with Fingals... total monopoly over the area.

Dodge · 10-01-2012, 11:27

SDCC changed last year to Greyhound. Within 6 months they had changed from weekly charge to an annual charge with pay per weigh charge.

Others (Thorntons/Access Waste) are in the some markets too but all have an annual charge now. In my estate, both thorntons and greyhound split it pretty evenly (mayb 6040 in thorntons favour)

Dirk Gently · 10-01-2012, 12:03

greyhound have updated their site. info will be coming out in the post.

http://greyhound.ie/index.php?option...9cc671ba45fe28

Quote:

FOR DUBLIN CITY DOMESTIC BIN & TAG CUSTOMERS
Dublin City Council and Greyhound Recycling and Recovery have reached agreement on the sale of the Council’s commercial and domestic waste collection business to Greyhound Recycling and Recovery.

Dublin City Council’s decision to sell the waste collection service to Greyhound Recycling and Recovery took place after a comprehensive review and competitive tender process.

Greyhound Recycling and Recovery is Ireland’s largest collector of domestic and recyclable waste. The Clondalkin based company will take over control of collecting the green, brown and grey bins from the City Council’s 140,000 customers on Monday 16th January 2012. All existing customers should experience a seamless transfer from collection by the City Council to the new arrangement with Greyhound Recycling and Recovery.

Dublin City Council will officially transfer its commercial and domestic waste collection business to Greyhound Recycling and Recovery on Monday, 16th January 2012.

DUBLIN CITY DOMESTIC WHEELIE BIN CUSTOMERS
As a household customer we wish to advise you of how this transfer to Greyhound Recycling and Recovery relates to the collection of your black, green and brown bins.

We have issued information packs for each household customer which you should have received by 13th January 2012 (if not please email dublincity@greyhound.ieThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it confirming your address for an additional pack to be issued). Further details on the transfer are below:

Annual Service Charge

The current DCC Annual Service Charge will be maintained for 2012, please check your information pack to confirm if service charge is applicable to you and invoice for your exact charge if applicable.

Customers are required to pay the Annual Service Charge, in full, within 30 days from Monday 16th January.

Greyhound Recycling and Recovery will not collect bins from households who have not paid the Annual Service Charge, in full, after 30 days from Monday 16th January.
Lift Fees

The current €6 fee for each black bin lift and €2 fee for each brown bin lift will be maintained for an initial period of at least 6 months.

Customers are required to ensure that their Greyhound account has sufficient funds to meet the current cost of each black and brown bin lift.

Customers who do not have sufficient funds in their account for the cost of a Black or Brown bin will not have their bin collected.

Dodge · 10-01-2012, 12:30

Just on that, they also send you out a label for your green bin, and won't collect that either without the annual charge.

Meauldsegosha · 10-01-2012, 12:33

So the lift charges will increase in July then. If I'm reading that right do we now have to pay in advance for bin lifts?

Dovies · 10-01-2012, 12:33

So what happens to the people whose waiver has still not been processed from last year?

Dirk Gently · 10-01-2012, 12:37

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Originally Posted by TishyO

So the lift charges will increase in July then. If I'm reading that right do we now have to pay in advance for bin lifts?

Looks like greyhound charge per kilo according to existing price structures on routes they already service. expect weight charging to come in after the 6 months. You'll also need to have money in your account in advance to get your bin lifted.

msg11 · 10-01-2012, 12:40

Really and truly , what is the point in taxes and local councils they do **** all now at this stage.

emmetmurphy · 10-01-2012, 12:42

my neighbour puts them in the bins at the shop.. he`s mad

Stripey Cat · 10-01-2012, 12:45

This is what Sinn Fein and the Socialist Party said would happen, and what the Labour Party said pretty clearly would not happen.

So, I guess when it comes to discussions of things like water charges and the household tax, we should listen to Sinn Fein and the Socialist Party, and ignore what the Labour Party say.

Dodge · 10-01-2012, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by msg11

Really and truly , what is the point in taxes and local councils they do **** all now at this stage.

You don't pay any local taxes in fairness, and did you really think the only thing they did was pick up your bins?

10-01-2012, 09:23	#1
Ernest Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 286 Adverts \| Friends	Dublin City Council - Bin Collection Privatised/Greyhound Megathread I hear on the radio this morning that Dublin City Council have abandoned their household bin collection and outsourced it to Greyhound (I think they do green bin collection already) Who decided this and why? I did not see any discussion about it anywhere. What happens to the existing Dublin City Council Staff who were employed in this task up to now? Are they all just made redundant? It cannot be called redundancy, surely, if an employer decides to outsource an existing activity which is not itself discontinued. Also the radio report stated that Greyhound would not entertain any more claims for waivers of waste collection charges and would only honour existing waivers for one year!! Surely that is not a decision to be taken by a private outsource company but is part of national policy. Dublin City Council are presumably the statutory body responsible for waste collection and for the implementation of national policy on charges and waivers. Isn't it time for the City Manager's office to make a public statement on the whole affair. As for the elected council members - what have they been doing here??? Have they approved all of this??

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10-01-2012, 10:17	#2
stevensi Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 295 Adverts \| Friends	There will be flytipping galore because of this!!!

10-01-2012, 10:23	#3
Dirk Gently Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,472 Adverts \| Friends	I assume collections are still taking place on regular days (i.e my bin is sitting outside my garden at home at the moment). Surprised there was no notification of this. One monopoly to another. competition doesnt really work with bin collecting as whole areas are auctioned off. you still end up with one service provider.

10-01-2012, 10:34	#4
Meauldsegosha Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 895 Adverts \| Friends	So annoyed at the moment, got up this morning to find that some f*cker had put their rubbish bags in and beside my bin. If they are privatising the collections you can bet the charges will go up.

10-01-2012, 10:57	#5
January Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 12,184 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Dublin City, Parenting, Parenting Mods	Fingal have done the same with Panda, Panda increased their prices in-line with Fingals... total monopoly over the area.

10-01-2012, 11:27	#6
Dodge Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,532 Adverts \| Friends	SDCC changed last year to Greyhound. Within 6 months they had changed from weekly charge to an annual charge with pay per weigh charge. Others (Thorntons/Access Waste) are in the some markets too but all have an annual charge now. In my estate, both thorntons and greyhound split it pretty evenly (mayb 6040 in thorntons favour)

10-01-2012, 12:30	#8
Dodge Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,532 Adverts \| Friends	Just on that, they also send you out a label for your green bin, and won't collect that either without the annual charge.

10-01-2012, 12:33	#9
Meauldsegosha Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 895 Adverts \| Friends	So the lift charges will increase in July then. If I'm reading that right do we now have to pay in advance for bin lifts?

10-01-2012, 12:33	#10
Dovies Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Dublin Posts: 1,937 Adverts \| Friends	So what happens to the people whose waiver has still not been processed from last year?

10-01-2012, 12:40	#12
msg11 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,147 Adverts \| Friends	Really and truly , what is the point in taxes and local councils they do **** all now at this stage.

10-01-2012, 12:42	#13
emmetmurphy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 69 Adverts \| Friends	my neighbour puts them in the bins at the shop.. he`s mad

10-01-2012, 12:45	#14
Stripey Cat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 731 Adverts \| Friends	This is what Sinn Fein and the Socialist Party said would happen, and what the Labour Party said pretty clearly would not happen. So, I guess when it comes to discussions of things like water charges and the household tax, we should listen to Sinn Fein and the Socialist Party, and ignore what the Labour Party say.