[pclancy]

Does anyone know how long expressions of interest are taking to be drawn from the pool at the moment? My current 3 year visa is nearly up. I've done some long thinking and decided to stay on down here for another few years so need to get the residancy skates on. Submitted it today and going to sort medical soon. Here nearly four years now. Ireland just still seems so ****ed and the other few countries i'd consider not in much better shape for jobs etc. NZ is nice and comfy right now. Just miss home i guess!

[Cookie_Monster]

ours got delivered on 5th April, got drawn from the pool 6th April

[kiwipower]

Good on ya Pclancy!
Best of luck!
Wish I was living there now!
On countdown to the trip home in the mean time!
Got the family behind a Waitangi weekend family holiday on the Kapiti Coast. 11 Adults, 4 children and a dog! Should be mad, even if they are all to broke to afford it!

[pclancy]

Cheers...its been a tough decision, feel like I should be going home as i hate missing mates weddings and new babies but am pretty sure NZ is going to be a better place to live for the near future, the lifestyle here is just so laid back.

[pclancy]

Wow selected already. Now need to fill in some more forms, do a medical/chest Xray, hand over some more cash and i'm a resident!

I wonder does anyone know are oversears residents considered Kiwis from the point of view of visiting or working in Oz?

[kiwipower]

Originally Posted by pclancy

Wow selected already. Now need to fill in some more forms, do a medical/chest Xray, hand over some more cash and i'm a resident!

I wonder does anyone know are oversears residents considered Kiwis from the point of view of visiting or working in Oz?

Congrats on being selected!

You know what Prime Minister Piggy Muldoon said about Kiwis imigrating to Australia in the 80's?

... They raise the average IQ of both countrys!


I know you use to be able to travel into Oz as a naturalised New Zealand citizen on a Kiwi passport, not sure if it is still the same.

My dad is an Irish Citizen with Permanent Residence in NZ for nearly 40years, and only has an Irish passport, he has to get a visa each time he wants to visit Australia, even for a two weeks holiday.

[Mrs OBumble]

I think that you have to have held NZ citizenship for 5 years (Hmm, or maybe it's permanent residency for 5 years), before you can travel to Oz like a from-birth Kiwi. Or maybe it's before you can move there for good.

Pretty sure there's a 5 years in the right answer. Unsure re rest of the details.

[Rosy Posy]

Originally Posted by pclancy

Wow selected already. Now need to fill in some more forms, do a medical/chest Xray, hand over some more cash and i'm a resident!

I wonder does anyone know are oversears residents considered Kiwis from the point of view of visiting or working in Oz?

I'm afraid not- you'll still have to apply/pay for a visa like any Irish person. Once you've had residency for 5 years you are eligible to apply for citizenship (a kiwi passport). Jump through a few hoops and you're a fully fledged kiwi with all the benefits this entails re visiting/working in oz...and you can keep your Irish passport too.

[Mrs OBumble]

Originally Posted by Rosy Posy

Jump through a few hoops ....

Be aware that these hoops include

" take the Oath or Affirmation of Allegiance, declaring that you will honour Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of New Zealand; obey the laws of New Zealand and be a good citizen" (ref Internal Affairs: http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.ns...s?OpenDocument)

Some Irish people have difficulty with the bold bit. Others don't.

[Rosy Posy]

Originally Posted by JustMary

Be aware that these hoops include

" take the Oath or Affirmation of Allegiance, declaring that you will honour Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of New Zealand; obey the laws of New Zealand and be a good citizen" (ref Internal Affairs: http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.ns...s?OpenDocument)

Some Irish people have difficulty with the bold bit. Others don't.

this is why my husband will not be applying for citizenship, but in fairness, he is on the skills shortages list and I am not so it kinda sways me

[Cookie_Monster]

Originally Posted by JustMary

Be aware that these hoops include

" take the Oath or Affirmation of Allegiance, declaring that you will honour Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of New Zealand; obey the laws of New Zealand and be a good citizen" (ref Internal Affairs: http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.ns...s?OpenDocument)

Some Irish people have difficulty with the bold bit. Others don't.

I imagine that'll be changed once she pops her clogs, the Aussies are removing references tot he crown once Lizzy is gone, I'd imagine it'll be the same here.

[30Min]

Blanket Man is dead .

[pclancy]

Originally Posted by 30Min

Blanket Man is dead .

Ah poor auld Blanky. Amazing he lasted as long as he did considering his lifestyle and malnutrition. Messed up guy, sometimes he could be pretty abusive so i always wondered why he had such iconic status.

[Mrs OBumble]

Originally Posted by Cookie_Monster

I imagine that'll be changed once she pops her clogs, the Aussies are removing references tot he crown once Lizzy is gone, I'd imagine it'll be the same here.

Wrong. In fact that comment gives you pretty much a monumental fail on the "understanding of New Zealand" test. Sorry 'bout that.

Maori signed a treaty with the Brittish crown in 1840. For the majority of Maori, that established a relationship with the crown that can never be undone. So no matter what some Pakeha (myself included) may want, republicanism will never take off in the same way as Oz, where there was no treaty.

[Cookie_Monster]

Originally Posted by JustMary

Wrong. In fact that comment gives you pretty much a monumental fail on the "understanding of New Zealand" test. Sorry 'bout that.

just what I thought may happen. How does it fail me the NZ test, it's not something I care that much about (I don't have Queen issues) so have not gone out of my way to check, seemed like a logical assumption seeing as other Commonwealth nations are considering / doing it.

Maori signed a treaty with the Brittish crown in 1840. For the majority of Maori, that established a relationship with the crown that can never be undone. So no matter what some Pakeha (myself included) may want, republicanism will never take off in the same way as Oz, where there was no treaty.

Last I checked NZ was still a democracy so if the want was really there it could be pushed through, not enough Maori to hold it up if it came to it. But the constant needs to pander to their minority means it probably won't come up I suppose.
Ireland signed plenty of treaties with the crown, things have changed since then though...