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25-10-2011, 08:16   #1
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I put my neck out a few weeks ago and a physiotherapist friend of mine suspected my back may be slightly misaligned and to go to a chiropractor. I had no reason to doubt the advice, I went, got manipulated and was given advice on exercises etc. It got better a few days after and then I put it out again, pain from the same area etc and decided to get an xray.

In the last few weeks I've learned that Chiropractors are considered pseudo science here and aren't recognised, in that, the XRAY department would never release copies to a Chiropractor and that they can do a lot more harm than good even if a lot of people have good results using them.

I said this to my Physiotherapist friend who said that she believes there's a few under handed preventions for them from the medical industry in Ireland and that they are recognised as proper treatments in Australia and I think she said the US too.

The XRAY is going to be reported back to my GP who will then advise on what to do.

Should I really dismiss the idea of going to a Chiropractor? By the way, the one local to me has studied in Australia and has a very good reputation.
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Like in any profession there are good ones and bad ones.
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I have two herniated discs in my back. Ive had great results with a chiropractor and terrible results with a physio. As mentioned before, theres some good eggs and bad eggs in each profession.
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I put my neck out a few weeks ago and a physiotherapist friend of mine suspected my back may be slightly misaligned and to go to a chiropractor. I had no reason to doubt the advice, I went, got manipulated and was given advice on exercises etc. It got better a few days after and then I put it out again, pain from the same area etc and decided to get an xray.

In the last few weeks I've learned that Chiropractors are considered pseudo science here and aren't recognised, in that, the XRAY department would never release copies to a Chiropractor and that they can do a lot more harm than good even if a lot of people have good results using them.

I said this to my Physiotherapist friend who said that she believes there's a few under handed preventions for them from the medical industry in Ireland and that they are recognised as proper treatments in Australia and I think she said the US too.

The XRAY is going to be reported back to my GP who will then advise on what to do.

Should I really dismiss the idea of going to a Chiropractor? By the way, the one local to me has studied in Australia and has a very good reputation.
You want to end up in a wheelchair?

http://www.chirobase.org/08Legal/turner.html

http://quackfiles.blogspot.com/2006/...ropractic.html


http://www.ebm-first.com/chiropracti...les-et-al.html
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Thanks for the replies, which I agree with of course. But just going by what I heard recently, it seems they are thrown into the same category of other professions who have no science to back them up and thrive on the placebo effect, but I can't see the placebo effect popping a disc back into place?
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Thanks for the replies, which I agree with of course. But just going by what I heard recently, it seems they are thrown into the same category of other professions who have no science to back them up and thrive on the placebo effect, but I can't see the placebo effect popping a disc back into place?
What science is behind chiropractic ?

You don't even know if you disc is really out of place - you would need an MRI to spot that.
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25-10-2011, 12:54   #7
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Sorry, I'm not saying I have a disc out of place, but just in general, as I said, I wasn't even aware that they were viewed as an unconventional treatment method until after I went, I had heard of them before and assumed they were like Physios, who I had been recommended to from my own GP before, but it seems a GP wouldn't recommend to go to a Chiro, at least not here anyway, but I've been told they are recognised in Austrailia/The US where a GP would refer to a Chiro, I don't know much about the matter myself, was just surprised to hear.
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Just stay away from them..they're a bunch of quacks.
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I use the Chiro quite a bit but I am no better than I was. I would get my back done and it would be good for a few weeks and then straight back out. What is the alternative to a Chiro though?
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I put my neck out a few weeks ago and a physiotherapist friend of mine suspected my back may be slightly misaligned and to go to a chiropractor. I had no reason to doubt the advice, I went, got manipulated and was given advice on exercises etc. It got better a few days after and then I put it out again, pain from the same area etc and decided to get an xray.

In the last few weeks I've learned that Chiropractors are considered pseudo science here and aren't recognised, in that, the XRAY department would never release copies to a Chiropractor and that they can do a lot more harm than good even if a lot of people have good results using them.

I said this to my Physiotherapist friend who said that she believes there's a few under handed preventions for them from the medical industry in Ireland and that they are recognised as proper treatments in Australia and I think she said the US too.

The XRAY is going to be reported back to my GP who will then advise on what to do.

Should I really dismiss the idea of going to a Chiropractor? By the way, the one local to me has studied in Australia and has a very good reputation.
You want to end up in a wheelchair?

http://www.chirobase.org/08Legal/turner.html

http://quackfiles.blogspot.com/2006/...ropractic.html


http://www.ebm-first.com/chiropracti...les-et-al.html

A friend of mine went to a chartered physical therapist for a pain she had in her back. He worked on her and she woke up the next morning she could hardly walk the pain was that bad. She went and got an MRI and one of the discs in her back was after being twisted out of place.

What I'm trying to say is I'm sure if we look hard enough we could find plenty of articles where medically recognised professions have ended up making a problem worse.

Personally speaking, I went from ten sessions with an osteopath and seein no results to the same with a chiro and seeing much quicker and effective results. I was hardly able to walk for months and after 20 sessions all in all I'm back running and in the gym doing heavy sessions. All I can say is it worked for me, and I didn't end up in a wheel chair.
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What I'm trying to say is I'm sure if we look hard enough we could find plenty of articles where medically recognised professions have ended up making a problem worse.

Personally speaking, I went from ten sessions with an osteopath and seein no results to the same with a chiro and seeing much quicker and effective results. I was hardly able to walk for months and after 20 sessions all in all I'm back running and in the gym doing heavy sessions. All I can say is it worked for me, and I didn't end up in a wheel chair.
I could've written this post word for word, except I saw a very reputable physio (who didn't have a clue about lower back problems, it turned out) instead of an osteopath. My chiropractor is Canadian and chiropracty is medically recognised over there, they're all up on the latest back pain research and they apply it very well.
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Just stay away from them..they're a bunch of quacks.
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Chiropractors are not medical professionals. There is no science behind what they do.

How can you trust that you're seeing "one of the good ones"?
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That's the thing though, they seem to be not medical professionals here, but are in other countries? You could have the same question with how can you trust your seeing a good one with any doctor.
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Chiropractors are not medical professionals. There is no science behind what they do.

How can you trust that you're seeing "one of the good ones"?
That's like saying the same with any profession! A personal trainer could put your back out by giving you wrong instructions on a deadlift.
A physio, physical therapist or massage therapist could do more damage than good misdiagnosing an injury.
A doctor could kill you giving you a wrong injection. A surgeon could kill you in surgery.

There are several good chiros out there, and several bad 1's but that's like every profession. In galway I only ever recommend 2 chiros, 5 physios and 2 physical therapists. I have yet to find a GP to recommend tho!
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