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scop · 06-08-2006, 15:38

Hello all.

On another place I post Ive been told that the Irish average IQ is about 93 or so. The main argument for this comes from Richard Lynn. Now when I do some research on this I cannot for the life of me find any real sources to verify or contradict this!

Can anybody help me out. In the name of the Irish people

Great Britain: Research by Richard Lynn discussed in Ciaran Benson, "Ireland's 'Low' IQ," pp. 222-23 in Russell Jacoby and Naomi Glauberman (eds.), The Bell Curve Debate (New York: Times Books, 1995).

Ruu · 06-08-2006, 15:39

You're asking this to people on AH?

^CwAzY^ · 06-08-2006, 15:40

nevr heard dat b4, i did hear 1 bout d blacks in nigeria r sumthin havin bout 40 lower IQ avg dan mst of d rst of d world..

metrovelvet · 06-08-2006, 15:40

That's because all the bright ones emigrated.

sixpack's little hat · 06-08-2006, 15:43

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Originally Posted by ^CwAzY^

nevr heard dat b4, i did hear 1 bout d blacks in nigeria r sumthin havin bout 40 lower IQ avg dan mst of d rst of d world..

QED

monkeyfudge · 06-08-2006, 15:43

Isn't 90 pretty much the average IQ for humans in general? So it's nothing special if it's true.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 06-08-2006, 15:43

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Originally Posted by ^CwAzY^

nevr heard dat b4, i did hear 1 bout d blacks in nigeria r sumthin havin bout 40 lower IQ avg dan mst of d rst of d world..

Second thread today I've read where you say something negative about Blacks.

Also on a thread about IQ I'd avoid getting your 13 year old sister to type for you. She seems to think you do it the same way her mates text her.

**RuggieBear** · 06-08-2006, 15:44

There is an argument that the Irish IQ is lower by about 10 point generally as at some deep sub conscious level we all think in only Irish (the language of our ancestors) and as a consequence of speaking and thinking in English, part of our brain power is consumed doing the "translations"

Btw I think the Bell curve is a awful piece of research with some really dodgy methodology and even worse analysis.

**Tusky** · 06-08-2006, 15:46

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Originally Posted by ^CwAzY^

nevr heard dat b4, i did hear 1 bout d blacks in nigeria r sumthin havin bout 40 lower IQ avg dan mst of d rst of d world..

dear christ. Close your boards.ie account please, do us a favour ?

Crucifix · 06-08-2006, 15:46

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Originally Posted by monkeyfudge

Isn't 90 pretty much the average IQ for humans in general? So it's nothing special if it's true.

I thought 100 was the average by definition. I could be wrong though.

^CwAzY^ · 06-08-2006, 15:47

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Originally Posted by Bottle_of_Smoke

Second thread today I've read where you say something negative about Blacks.

Also on a thread about IQ I'd avoid getting your 13 year old sister to type for you. She seems to think you do it the same way her mates text her.

yawn, dis is taken from richard lynn site

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In 1991 I extended my work on race differences in intelligence to other races. I concluded that the average IQ of blacks in sub-Saharan Africa is approximately 70. It has long been known that the average IQ of blacks in the United States is approximately 85. The explanation for the higher IQ of American blacks is that they have about 25 per cent of Caucasian genes and a better environment.

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The IQ of blacks in sub-Saharan Africa is a good deal lower at 67. Hence, the adverse environment in sub-Saharan Africa, which he regards as consisting principally of poor nutrition and health, contributes about 13 IQ points to the low IQ in sub-Saharan Africa.

taken from www.rlynn.co.uk

u cant call me a racist for quotin facts

Bottle_of_Smoke · 06-08-2006, 15:49

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Originally Posted by RuggieBear

There is an argument that the Irish IQ is lower by about 10 point generally as at some deep sub conscious level we all think in only Irish (the language of our ancestors) and as a consequence of speaking and thinking in English, part of our brain power is consumed doing the "translations"

Btw I think the Bell curve is a awful piece of research with some really dodgy methodology and even worse analysis.

~I'd be interested to know who put forth that argument. I knew a Dutch guy living here so long he said he was translating more when speaking in Dutch. Surely that would imply the brain doesn't mind which language it thinks in once it's used to it.

Surely the english used by English people's ancestors would be very different to the english spoken today.

monkeyfudge · 06-08-2006, 15:50

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Originally Posted by Crucifix

I thought 100 was the average by definition. I could be wrong though.

Well I think it's something like 80% have an IQ between 90 and 110.

Anything below 70 and you're looking at mental retardation though.

**RuggieBear** · 06-08-2006, 15:50

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Originally Posted by ^CwAzY^

u cant call me a racist for quotin facts

They are not facts. They are his interpretations of his woeful research.

^CwAzY^ · 06-08-2006, 15:52

dats jus u sayin its woeful, sure ders lots of ppl who agre wit him

06-08-2006, 15:38	#1
scop Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 622 Adverts \| Friends	Low Irish IQ Hello all. On another place I post Ive been told that the Irish average IQ is about 93 or so. The main argument for this comes from Richard Lynn. Now when I do some research on this I cannot for the life of me find any real sources to verify or contradict this! Can anybody help me out. In the name of the Irish people Great Britain: Research by Richard Lynn discussed in Ciaran Benson, "Ireland's 'Low' IQ," pp. 222-23 in Russell Jacoby and Naomi Glauberman (eds.), The Bell Curve Debate (New York: Times Books, 1995).

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Ruu Closed Account Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 32,625 Adverts \| Friends	You're asking this to people on AH?

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^CwAzY^ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: errrrrk!!!! Posts: 571 Adverts \| Friends	nevr heard dat b4, i did hear 1 bout d blacks in nigeria r sumthin havin bout 40 lower IQ avg dan mst of d rst of d world..

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monkeyfudge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Land of Ooo Posts: 22,886 Adverts \| Friends	Isn't 90 pretty much the average IQ for humans in general? So it's nothing special if it's true.

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RuggieBear Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wirral Posts: 14,807 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Rugby, Rugby Mods	There is an argument that the Irish IQ is lower by about 10 point generally as at some deep sub conscious level we all think in only Irish (the language of our ancestors) and as a consequence of speaking and thinking in English, part of our brain power is consumed doing the "translations" Btw I think the Bell curve is a awful piece of research with some really dodgy methodology and even worse analysis.

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^CwAzY^ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: errrrrk!!!! Posts: 571 Adverts \| Friends	dats jus u sayin its woeful, sure ders lots of ppl who agre wit him