[run_Forrest_run]

Hi Folks,
Perhaps I am a little bitter after being in the IT industry for 6 years but is anyone else just sick of the way the IT industry is?? I love programming but I am becoming more and more fed up with the overall IT business! Any programmer will tell you they love programming but hate the peripheral issues like meetings, last minute change requests etc..maybe I just got out of the wrong side of the bed today (or for the past year!)...does anyone else share these feelings?? Maybe time for a career change but not qualified to do anything else!

[rsynnott]

You could become a contractor...

[run_Forrest_run]

agreed but I don't want to venture too far from where I currently am..anyway contractors are often hired to be the fall guy for an ailing project....my first IT job was with a consulting firm...they would sell your soul for a few bob!

ah, sure I suppose most jobs have their knockers...that's why they are jobs..no one likes em! Now to win the next euro millions....hmmm.

[Evil Phil]

Originally Posted by run_Forrest_run

agreed but I don't want to venture too far from where I currently am..anyway contractors are often hired to be the fall guy for an ailing project....my first IT job was with a consulting firm...they would sell your soul for a few bob!

ah, sure I suppose most jobs have their knockers...that's why they are jobs..no one likes em! Now to win the next euro millions....hmmm.

I disagree, in my experience contractors or a convient way of getting extra hands on board without the commitments or expense of fulltime staff. Sometimes contractors may be brought in for an ailing project in a consultancy role but this is to save the project rather than have a fall guy.

By the by, yes I do get fed up sometimes, usually in a 2 or 3 weeks window over go-live but it goes away again

[cornbb]

IT sucks. I finished my degree a year ago and no sign of a job. If i did get an IT job, i suspect I wouldn't want to hang onto it. Going back to college in sept to do something completely different

[run_Forrest_run]

at least I am not the only one gettin fed up! yeah,nothing wosrse than week before release and feckin user support/reqs come at ya with a last minute change request....I suppose they are not to blame...it's project management for letting it go ahead who should be shot...in my experience anyway!!

[run_Forrest_run]

Originally Posted by cornbb

IT sucks. I finished my degree a year ago and no sign of a job. If i did get an IT job, i suspect I wouldn't want to hang onto it. Going back to college in sept to do something completely different

well fair dues to ya for copping it so quick! It took me about 4.5 years to realise it sucks! But at least I can say I never entered the IT industry for the money..I have a great interest in computers anyway....just the business/management side of things that gets me so mad!!

[GoneShootin]

Welp Ive just secured a nice full time position as a Web/Soft Dev type person in Midleton. Its been a year since my Degree, and I couldnt get a smell of an interview back then. So, I went back and went at my Masters. Feb 05 I got a part time IT Admin/Web Dev job, so I could still do the fulltime masters and work partime. Now that the masters is finished (more or less) I went looking for a full time position. It took about 3 months of hard cold calling and chasing people up, but I a new job, and 3 interviews this week alone.

Emailing recruitment angencies via recruitireland/irishjobs wont really help. I use those sites to get a list of end employers and then call them directly.

There are plenty of graduate positions in the country, mostly in Dublin. I could have had a job last year no problem, but I would not move to Dublin permenanty. EVER

IT is great. You get free broadban at work to download Invader Zim!

[Merrion]

IT is a good avenue for those that want to be "entrepreneurs". It probably won't make you a millionaire (there just aren't any really big markets unfulfilled) but if you find a niche you can probably make a living at it. Best of all you don't have to carry feckless middle management around with you ;-)

[run_Forrest_run]

You said it Merrion! Feckless middle management!

Took a look at your gallery...some great pics...nice one. Do you use a Digital SLR?

[Hobbes]

There are two skill sets to work on.

1) Technical.

2) Personal.

A lot of developers have no problems with #1 and its why they get into the business. #2 however tends to give a lot of grief. If you spend time training on this it can help a lot with the other crap that you have to put up with.

[run_Forrest_run]

Originally Posted by Hobbes

There are two skill sets to work on.

1) Technical.

2) Personal.

A lot of developers have no problems with #1 and its why they get into the business. #2 however tends to give a lot of grief. If you spend time training on this it can help a lot with the other crap that you have to put up with.

totally agree. I know plenty of developers who are great at 1 but awful at 2 and hence end up writing millions of lines of code but are never really promoted or consulted on design/usability issues. It's just that no matter how much personal ability one has it seems very difficult to handle constant chopping and changing of requirements/demands from management (without changing the deadlines of course!).

[wes]

Jeebus, threads like this are disheartening to someone like myself who has just graduated. Damn you all !!!

[run_Forrest_run]

Sorry Wes! Don't fret...you may love IT all! Maybe I am just tired of it...you may write some killer app and will be forever famous for it and they will throw loads of money at you just for coming into work every so often...who knows!

[wes]

By no mean did i go into IT expecting to be rich, lol. I just want to make a decent living of it. If I wanted to be rich I would be better off being an entrepreneur, more risk but all the rewards.