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sillild · 11-04-2005, 08:46

http://www.unison.ie/business/storie...=80&si=1374284

Music downloaders face hefty fines in piracy crackdown
Sunday April 10th 2005

NICK WEBB

HUNDREDS of music downloaders and file sharers could be prosecuted in a devastating crackdown on internet piracy unleashed by the majorrecord companies.

People who have illicitly downloaded songs including U2's Vertigo and Paddy Casey's Saints and Sinners could face fines of up to €5,800 if prosecuted. This could include the parents of children who have spent hours on the internet pirating songs for iPods or creating their own CDs, echoing the case when a 12-year-old New York school girl, Brianna LaHara, was sued by US record companies in late 2003. The Irish Record Music Association (IRMA), which represents the record companies, has prepared affidavits against close to 20 individuals, who are alleged to have distributed or "uploaded" shared files or illegally pirated music on the internet. Up to 250,000 people are thought to have illegally downloaded music here last year, according to IRMA data.

It is understood that the first 20 or so cases will be taken against these uploaders, but that a concerted campaign over the next three years will target more casual file sharers, with sources suggesting that "hundreds and hundreds" could be pursued.

IRMA is set to go to the High Court to force Irish internet service providers to divulge the identity of the initial 20 targeted internet accounts used for uploading the pirated music. In December, IRMA hired a US spy firmto monitor internet traffic from Ireland downloading thousands of specially selected tracks, ranging from well-known Irish acts suchas U2 and the Corrs to hip hop stars such as Eminem and 50 Cent.

**Cabaal** · 11-04-2005, 08:53

Shouldn't the subject be "People who copy copyright material beware" ?
After all there's nothing inherintely wrong with using torrents or bittorrent in general...well its true.

neon_glows · 11-04-2005, 08:56

Thats disgraceful. LoL, wonder am i one of those 20, ha ha. Just to be sure, any suggestions on how to get away with this if u are one of these peep's, ha ha. I reckon everybody delete everything, throw out your hard drives, lol

More serious note, what file sharing networks are being targeted?

Steffano2002 · 11-04-2005, 09:08

It is possible to download music from the internet?!?!?!? That's news to me!

(I'm preparing my defense)

**Cabaal** · 11-04-2005, 09:15

I can understand The Corrs and U2 but who the hell downloads Eminem and 50 Cent songs?

EDIT: hmm I guess teenagers...

CyberGhost · 11-04-2005, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cabaal

I can understand The Corrs and U2 but who the hell downloads Eminem and 50 Cent songs?

EDIT: hmm I guess teenagers...

yep, and they are the once that usually get cought, cause they couldn't care less about being careful

Chalk · 11-04-2005, 10:03

is any of whats mentioned there covered under irish law?

last i heard irma or irfu or whaterver their called couldnt even figure out how to receive the money from eircom/itunes so that they could legally sell songs,

surely this is just a bit of scaremongering now that broadband sppeds are 4x and everyone and their monkey can download the new u2 album while their waiting for a bus?

RobertFoster · 11-04-2005, 10:13

Neither me nor my monkey like U2, so I'm safe...

Shiny · 11-04-2005, 10:25

Are you sure it is "Torrent Users"?

What about all the other P2P clients????

I would have thought that Kazaa users would have
more to be worrying about.

**Cabaal** · 11-04-2005, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiny

Are you sure it is "Torrent Users"?

What about all the other P2P clients????

I would imagine its file sharers in general using edonkey, kazaaaaaaaaa ETC

The_Bullman · 11-04-2005, 11:03

In your expert opinion, would soulseek users be included ?

fintan · 11-04-2005, 11:24

What if you didn't download pirated music and you believe your computer must have been hacked into, what happens then?

Dr_MalPractice · 11-04-2005, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintan

What if you didn't download pirated music and you believe your computer must have been hacked into, what happens then?

then You're wel and truly boned

kasintahan · 11-04-2005, 11:40

This has been in the pipeline for years.

That's what the likes of
Freenet and GNUNet have been designed to withstand.
Total anonymity, warts 'n all.

Ruhan · 11-04-2005, 11:40

Quick, open all your ports, go publish your ip to every board, newsgroup, and channel you can find, and state what content you have on your computer to said groups.

Report the results here please.

11-04-2005, 08:46	#1
sillild Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 56 Adverts \| Friends	Torrent users beware http://www.unison.ie/business/storie...=80&si=1374284 Music downloaders face hefty fines in piracy crackdown Sunday April 10th 2005 NICK WEBB HUNDREDS of music downloaders and file sharers could be prosecuted in a devastating crackdown on internet piracy unleashed by the majorrecord companies. People who have illicitly downloaded songs including U2's Vertigo and Paddy Casey's Saints and Sinners could face fines of up to €5,800 if prosecuted. This could include the parents of children who have spent hours on the internet pirating songs for iPods or creating their own CDs, echoing the case when a 12-year-old New York school girl, Brianna LaHara, was sued by US record companies in late 2003. The Irish Record Music Association (IRMA), which represents the record companies, has prepared affidavits against close to 20 individuals, who are alleged to have distributed or "uploaded" shared files or illegally pirated music on the internet. Up to 250,000 people are thought to have illegally downloaded music here last year, according to IRMA data. It is understood that the first 20 or so cases will be taken against these uploaders, but that a concerted campaign over the next three years will target more casual file sharers, with sources suggesting that "hundreds and hundreds" could be pursued. IRMA is set to go to the High Court to force Irish internet service providers to divulge the identity of the initial 20 targeted internet accounts used for uploading the pirated music. In December, IRMA hired a US spy firmto monitor internet traffic from Ireland downloading thousands of specially selected tracks, ranging from well-known Irish acts suchas U2 and the Corrs to hip hop stars such as Eminem and 50 Cent.

11-04-2005, 08:53	#2
Cabaal Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Authoritarian Inc Posts: 18,115 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Broadband, VoIP, Waterford City, Windows	Shouldn't the subject be "People who copy copyright material beware" ? After all there's nothing inherintely wrong with using torrents or bittorrent in general...well its true. Last edited by Cabaal; 11-04-2005 at 09:08.

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Cabaal Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Authoritarian Inc Posts: 18,115 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Broadband, VoIP, Waterford City, Windows	I can understand The Corrs and U2 but who the hell downloads Eminem and 50 Cent songs? EDIT: hmm I guess teenagers... Last edited by Cabaal; 11-04-2005 at 09:22.

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neon_glows Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 857 Adverts \| Friends	Thats disgraceful. LoL, wonder am i one of those 20, ha ha. Just to be sure, any suggestions on how to get away with this if u are one of these peep's, ha ha. I reckon everybody delete everything, throw out your hard drives, lol More serious note, what file sharing networks are being targeted?

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Steffano2002 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,811 Adverts \| Friends	It is possible to download music from the internet?!?!?!? That's news to me! (I'm preparing my defense)

11-04-2005, 10:03	#7
Chalk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 3,225 Adverts \| Friends	is any of whats mentioned there covered under irish law? last i heard irma or irfu or whaterver their called couldnt even figure out how to receive the money from eircom/itunes so that they could legally sell songs, surely this is just a bit of scaremongering now that broadband sppeds are 4x and everyone and their monkey can download the new u2 album while their waiting for a bus?

11-04-2005, 10:13	#8
RobertFoster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,523 Adverts \| Friends	Neither me nor my monkey like U2, so I'm safe...

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Shiny Milch Es! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dublin 4 Posts: 2,108 Adverts \| Friends	Are you sure it is "Torrent Users"? What about all the other P2P clients???? I would have thought that Kazaa users would have more to be worrying about.

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The_Bullman Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Dundalk Posts: 1,867 Adverts \| Friends	In your expert opinion, would soulseek users be included ?

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fintan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 633 Adverts \| Friends	What if you didn't download pirated music and you believe your computer must have been hacked into, what happens then?

11-04-2005, 11:40	#14
kasintahan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the lunatic fringe Posts: 1,000 Adverts \| Friends	This has been in the pipeline for years. That's what the likes of Freenet and GNUNet have been designed to withstand. Total anonymity, warts 'n all.

11-04-2005, 11:40	#15
Ruhan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ratoath, Co. Meath Posts: 82 Adverts \| Friends	Quick, open all your ports, go publish your ip to every board, newsgroup, and channel you can find, and state what content you have on your computer to said groups. Report the results here please.