Simpsons..anti- irish??

minnie_mouse · 27-01-2005, 10:39

Has anyone else found the simpsons to be anti i-rish, i can rember several parts of dialouge to show this...what do u think?

jhegarty · 27-01-2005, 10:42

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Originally Posted by minnie_mouse

Has anyone else found the simpsons to be anti i-rish, i can rember several parts of dialouge to show this...what do u think?

the thing is the simpsons are anti everyone and everything.... (except beer)....

AlcoholicA · 27-01-2005, 10:42

aye theres been plenty of jokes about us, but its all in good fun.
i mean i remember all the times theyve made a joke about us, but id be lying if i said i didn't laugh.

Zapho · 27-01-2005, 10:47

Yeah they have made jokes about the Irish, like the one about the leprichans (spelled right?) flying over to america in the wheel wells of aerlingus flights, or grandpa simpson ridding springfield of the Irish. It they were so funny I couldn't stop laughing!
Ah but they make fun of the English all the time too and the french and .....well.....everybody. They make fun of americans more than anyone!

*seamus* · 27-01-2005, 10:47

The Simpsons has always used broad stereotypes to create jokes.

Take Groundskeeper Willie, Apu, Moe as but examples.

They've also done parody of British stereotypes, even worse than the Irish ones they've done ("Tis true - I took many a lump. But sure 'twas all in good fun!").

If you can't laugh at a non-malicious stereotype of your own countrymen, then you're taking life too seriously. Anything I've ever seen on the Simpsons has been either a mild stereotype, or actually very critical of American attitudes towards Irish people in the late 19th century. Certainly the above one about using whacking day as an excuse to beat up the Irish is a criticism of Americans, not a slur on Irish.
Also the Itchy and Scratchy founder episode ("Itchy runs afoul of an Irishman", "Look out Itchy - he's Irish!") takes a light-hearted look at the same attitude - it's nothing actually against the Irish.

If I had to pick the Simpsons as being anti-anything, I'd say it was anti-American (certainly since 1999).

garthv · 27-01-2005, 10:48

Id have to agree with above,Simpsons just take the piss out of anything they can and i find the Irish slaggings to be the funniest,not offensive.

jonnybadd · 27-01-2005, 10:48

I dont think there is any nation/people they havent takin the mick out of. The Irish do come up, as do english, and hippies to name a few, but the most people they regularily mock are themselves, as people in the 'industry'. They openly slag the network that gave them their big break, its just their style

Morgans · 27-01-2005, 10:50

"I'm the potato man"

orangerooster · 27-01-2005, 11:29

One that sticks out in my mind is the guys throwing a keg into the window of a chippers called "john bull" in the episode with the prohibition.Always makes me smile.

doh.ie · 27-01-2005, 11:45

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Originally Posted by seamus

If you can't laugh at a non-malicious stereotype of your own countrymen, then you're taking life too seriously.

Yep. If you can't laugh at yourself... There isn't a culture the Simpsons hasn't lampooned, but it's true Irish jokes have cropped up a few times more than, say, the people of Uruguay.

Still, they're always funny, even when they're close to the bone - ep with the Loch Ness monster:

Burns: I'm going to show you something so rare it has never before been seen.
Homer: A sober Irishman?
Burns: Rarer.

We'd be right to be offended - maybe - if other cultures didn't get the same treatment. I wonder what the French make of their representation - even more stereotypical than the Irish jokes! Doubt the British mind the 'stiff-upper lip' treatment too much, though.

**gimmick** · 27-01-2005, 11:51

Swar to god, everyone has become so PC its unreal. Has the entie world lost its sense of humour?

The Simpsons is not 'anti - Irish". Sure there are a few jokes at Irish drunkeness etc, but if you are to say that is anti irish, Bord fcuking Failte must be anti irsh as well, considering one of their main selling points of this Island is the "craic" to be had in our pubs.

Get over it and get out more.

Hairy Homer · 27-01-2005, 11:53

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Originally Posted by doh.ie

Yep. If you can't laugh at yourself... There isn't a culture the Simpsons hasn't lampooned, but it's true Irish jokes have cropped up a few times more than, say, the people of Uruguay.

Still, they're always funny, even when they're close to the bone - ep with the Loch Ness monster:

Burns: I'm going to show you something so rare it has never before been seen.
Homer: A sober Irishman?
Burns: Rarer.

We'd be right to be offended - maybe - if other cultures didn't get the same treatment. I wonder what the French make of their representation - even more stereotypical than the Irish jokes! Doubt the British mind the 'stiff-upper lip' treatment too much, though.

If we're so worried about general differences being represented as negative stereotypes then maybe we should all strive to look sound and act exactly the same.

For people of such a sensitive disposition can I recommend that you watch 'The Swan' hosted by our own lovely Amanda Byram. It basically takes a bunch of ugly people and then through a crash course of hairdressing, dieting, a massive clothes budget and cosmetic surgery makes them all end up looking exactly the same.

Yeuchh!! Give me the variety of red Irish hair, big Jewish noses, fat American arses and pouty French lips any time.

bigfeller · 27-01-2005, 12:06

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Originally Posted by doh.ie

the people of Uruguay.

<Homer spins globe, stabs it with his finger, stops on South America>

Homer: "Ha ha! Look at this country! ?You are gay!? Ha ha!"

toiletduck · 27-01-2005, 12:09

burns: im going to find something that man has searched for since the dawn of time
homer: a sober irishman?
burns: even rarer...

*seamus* · 27-01-2005, 12:14

"All this drinking, violence, destruction of property - Are these really the things we think of, when we think of the Irish?"
(Cut to float carrying "Drunken Irish Novelists of Springfield". All occupants jump off and proceed to fight with random passers-by)

Brilliant.

27-01-2005, 10:39	#1
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AlcoholicA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The city that never sweeps Posts: 2,119 Adverts \| Friends	aye theres been plenty of jokes about us, but its all in good fun. i mean i remember all the times theyve made a joke about us, but id be lying if i said i didn't laugh. __________________ you are banned from the personal issues forum for 1 month due to the suggestion to use volience on a person.

27-01-2005, 10:47	#5
seamus Ordinary Pleb Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: :getName() Posts: 28,804 Adverts \| Friends	The Simpsons has always used broad stereotypes to create jokes. Take Groundskeeper Willie, Apu, Moe as but examples. They've also done parody of British stereotypes, even worse than the Irish ones they've done ("Tis true - I took many a lump. But sure 'twas all in good fun!"). If you can't laugh at a non-malicious stereotype of your own countrymen, then you're taking life too seriously. Anything I've ever seen on the Simpsons has been either a mild stereotype, or actually very critical of American attitudes towards Irish people in the late 19th century. Certainly the above one about using whacking day as an excuse to beat up the Irish is a criticism of Americans, not a slur on Irish. Also the Itchy and Scratchy founder episode ("Itchy runs afoul of an Irishman", "Look out Itchy - he's Irish!") takes a light-hearted look at the same attitude - it's nothing actually against the Irish. If I had to pick the Simpsons as being anti-anything, I'd say it was anti-American (certainly since 1999). __________________

27-01-2005, 10:48	#6
garthv Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Your Face Posts: 4,398 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Beer4lyfe, Parkour & Free Running	Id have to agree with above,Simpsons just take the piss out of anything they can and i find the Irish slaggings to be the funniest,not offensive. __________________

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gimmick Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cork Posts: 6,221 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Pro Wrestling	Swar to god, everyone has become so PC its unreal. Has the entie world lost its sense of humour? The Simpsons is not 'anti - Irish". Sure there are a few jokes at Irish drunkeness etc, but if you are to say that is anti irish, Bord fcuking Failte must be anti irsh as well, considering one of their main selling points of this Island is the "craic" to be had in our pubs. Get over it and get out more. __________________ Evil I could tolerate, but stupidity???? I'm From Cork And I'm Better Than You

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Zapho Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: My happy place... Posts: 1,021 Adverts \| Friends	Yeah they have made jokes about the Irish, like the one about the leprichans (spelled right?) flying over to america in the wheel wells of aerlingus flights, or grandpa simpson ridding springfield of the Irish. It they were so funny I couldn't stop laughing! Ah but they make fun of the English all the time too and the french and .....well.....everybody. They make fun of americans more than anyone!

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jonnybadd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Malta Posts: 994 Adverts \| Friends	I dont think there is any nation/people they havent takin the mick out of. The Irish do come up, as do english, and hippies to name a few, but the most people they regularily mock are themselves, as people in the 'industry'. They openly slag the network that gave them their big break, its just their style

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orangerooster Hosted Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Laois. Posts: 1,581 Adverts \| Friends HMod: LNA	One that sticks out in my mind is the guys throwing a keg into the window of a chippers called "john bull" in the episode with the prohibition.Always makes me smile.

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toiletduck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: G-G-Galway! Posts: 1,996 Adverts \| Friends	burns: im going to find something that man has searched for since the dawn of time homer: a sober irishman? burns: even rarer...

27-01-2005, 12:14	#15
seamus Ordinary Pleb Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: :getName() Posts: 28,804 Adverts \| Friends	"All this drinking, violence, destruction of property - Are these really the things we think of, when we think of the Irish?" (Cut to float carrying "Drunken Irish Novelists of Springfield". All occupants jump off and proceed to fight with random passers-by) Brilliant. __________________

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