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04-10-2012, 01:22   #1
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UFO DISCLOSURE 2015?

Anybody read about a ufo disclosure to UN in USA in 2015- seems to be a good bit about it... with new tv shows and internet chat "preparing" us by making aliens et al more mainstream- is it real do you think or a Lot of crap?
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Anybody read about a ufo disclosure to UN in USA in 2015- seems to be a good bit about it... with new tv shows and internet chat "preparing" us by making aliens et al more mainstream- is it real do you think or a Lot of crap?
Well, the same people who tell us this - also tell us that the end of the world is this year. So either way, it's a load of bollocks.
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Im thinking that too and Im sure ill be sitting down to eat in 2015 and there they will be on tv- "yo we are here"- no aliens they said- lol Spark worldwide panic etc etc- scared here!
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So we're not all about to die at the end of 2012? Ah, thank god for that, I'm so relieved.

Disclosure stories are nearly as old as doomsday predictions, though you must treat them the same way by completely disregarding them.
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There was a reasonably interesting disclosure by the UK government a few years back, where they essentially acknowledged a number of strange phenomena, and UFOs, but there was still nothing more than reports on what had been seen. Was an interesting read nonetheless.
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There was a reasonably interesting disclosure by the UK government a few years back, where they essentially acknowledged a number of strange phenomena, and UFOs, but there was still nothing more than reports on what had been seen. Was an interesting read nonetheless.
Yep I remember that, they unclassified a load of files. Some of the credibility of the witnesses just boggles the mind, like these are highly trained professionals admitting they're stumped/no man made craft could make such manoeuvres etc.

It's a tough one to call. I think in this day & age, you'd be a proper cretin to think we are the only life in the universe. However, the distances are vast. Certainly chemical propulsion could never transverse the distances, so maybe if there were some type of propulsion that allowed huge distances to be traveled in short time, maybe, just maybe.

I remain skeptical that we're actually being visited though, & I would wager higher on strange sightings as being highly advanced test-craft that are top secret & above.
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'Being on a another planet' odds are 33/1 for 2015 and 2/1 for 2020
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no man made craft could make such manoeuvres etc.
http://science.slashdot.org/story/12...iously-thought
http://news.discovery.com/space/warp...ss-120917.html

Very possible that a civilisation not that far ahead of us could have craft accelerating to high speeds using tech similar to above.
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http://news.discovery.com/space/warp...ss-120917.html

Very possible that a civilisation not that far ahead of us could have craft accelerating to high speeds using tech similar to above.
Though the tech still wouldn't be man made
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Nothing of significance is going to come out anytime soon. The majority if not all documents that have been unclassified are related to already known events that may or may not have occurred and anything else isn't going to give someone a smoking gun. Anything containing evidence or proof will still be categorised as some level of classified for years to come. Basically it's not going to happen anytime soon.
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Nothing of significance is going to come out anytime soon. The majority if not all documents that have been unclassified are related to already known events that may or may not have occurred and anything else isn't going to give someone a smoking gun. Anything containing evidence or proof will still be categorised as some level of classified for years to come. Basically it's not going to happen anytime soon.
But the point of disclosure is never to actually disclose anything.

I think that these things do have significance. In particular, they have a significant effect on religion. Any argument that can be made on religious grounds can also be applied to alien civilizations and if enough people are logically compelled to accept the possibility of other worlds that are populated by lifeforms more advanced than can be found on earth then the bible is in danger of being 're-genred' to a work of pure fiction.

Over the coming years I expect to see religion consistently undermined until it loses all credibility. Religion will become synonymous with corruption as its leaders abandon ship taking all their treasure with them as they form a new alliance with the elite NWO group who will sell them protection.

The world is changing, death and rebirth are an end and a new beginning. For the last couple of decades we have been fed information that has enabled us to 'adjust' to the threat of terrorism. We all expect that something terrible is going to happen so we pay more tax in order to fund better security which in turn inpinges on personal freedom.

But we accept that this is a small price to pay in order not to be blown up by the millions of would-be suicide-bombers that are apparently out there.

But who is it that is more secure? You? Me?

No, new laws were created, new rules of detention, stop and search. The security services were getting more resources and gained tighter control over 'us', not 'them'.

Don't you see that?

So, 'they' soften us up with the terrorist threat and in doing so acquire the means with which to consolidate their position.

Now they say they will release data concerning UFO's that have been subject to an injunction under the secret's act... How exciting.

Well, I wonder how much people would be willing to pay in order to be protected from aliens. What kind of weapons would we insist on developing if we thought that there was a possibility of being attacked by aliens?

Ludicrous. What kind of war-cabinet puts such a threat out of mind for fifty years?

And also, what makes us think that the evidence is not corrupted? Would we still believe that 'they' wouldn't lie to us?

Suppose that in 2015 'they' tell us that alien craft did enter earth's air-space but the Americans thought they were being attacked by the Russians and mounted an assault in which a number of craft were disabled, some aliens killed or captured and being, as it turned, a scientific research team from another world and therefore unprepared for battle, a number of craft managed to escape back to their mothership and were able to report back to their home world.

Oops!

So, since then, the military forces of all the super-powers have been developing weapons with which to deal with the retaliation that is expected from that.

What if they told us that? What if 'God' is coming here to punish someone for something that actually happened? But not the 'Hebrew God'.

The 'Hebrew God' needs a stockpille of nuclear weapons, and lots of gold, with which to repel this alien God.

'They' might even put on a 'firework display' in space for amateur astronomers all over the world to observe and gain widespead support that will justify the extra funding required for security.

Mainstream religion will collapse into chaos as its leader abandon ship whilst at the same time acknowledging the NWO as being the right hand of God.

And suppose that in 2015, when they open these files, nothing is revealed save a few unsolved or unexplained observations. Suppose that no direct evidence of alien visitations is revealed, no wreckage, no bodies, no decent pictures.

Then why the secrecy?

Do you see? 'They' have been preparing us for decades and now we are almost ready to submit willingly to slavery. Just a few more catastrophes and we will beg them for hope. We will abandon the preists who can do nothing but collect money from poor people.

(I always wondered, what precisely is the Pope saving up for? A ticket, perhaps?)

Were there people in 1990 who were complaining that they would have to wait 25-years for this information? I don't think so, it was classified. How come we know about it now? Because 'they' want us to think about it, imagine the worst, grow fearful and ultimately, turn to 'them' for help.

I think it is dangerous and lazy to dismiss these things out of hand. Dangerous because you run the risk of directing people away from the truth. They may need to be better prepared than what they are for what is to come.

And lazy because it allows you to avoid any analysis that might lead to discomfort. I am not saying that you are a coward but it is cowardly too.

We all complain about the banks and the governments and the judiciary, and religion but these are the 'they' that I refer to. And they are the ones that are dying to tell us about UFOs and we are the ones dying to hear about them.

And they will make us wait as children wait for Christmas, on tenterhooks.

It's about control, not truth.
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There are no aliens visiting earth in spaceships so there is nothing to disclose in this regard. 90% of it is secret aircraft testing. The other 10% is from the same place that visions of the Virgin Mary come from. Our minds.

Only one book on UFOs that is not rooted in sci-fi magical thinking is Jaques Vallee's Messengers of Deception.

It make pretty terrifying reading and you will wish aliens were here as we are under far more danger from humans pushing this dangerous mythology.

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There are no aliens visiting earth in spaceships so there is nothing to disclose in this regard. 90% of it is secret aircraft testing. The other 10% is from the same place that visions of the Virgin Mary come from. Our minds.
That's the same type of thing the other side uses to explain UFO's. You cant say something does not exist without proof, same way you cant say it does exist without proof.
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