[Actor]

I'm going to be saying a special prayer for Katie. God is answering our prayers for the youth with role models such as Katie Taylor.

Michael Conlon and his rosary tattoos is an equally special person - not afraid to publicly pronounce his beliefs in an increasingly hostile world.

God bless Katie!

[Jellicoe]

and yet they will smugly claim these people are 'irrational'

[Avatarr]

Originally Posted by Jellicoe

and yet they will smugly claim these people are 'irrational'

They?????????

[AtomicHorror]

Originally Posted by Avatarr

They?????????

I think that means people like me.

We keep spoiling the good vibes by asking awkward questions like "what about all the athletes who prayed and didn't win?" and "what about all the winners who don't mention prayer". It's almost as if praying doesn't have a measurable effect on outcomes.

[PDN]

Originally Posted by AtomicHorror

I think that means people like me.

We keep spoiling the good vibes by asking awkward questions like "what about all the athletes who prayed and didn't win?" and "what about all the winners who don't mention prayer". It's almost as if praying doesn't have a measurable effect on outcomes.

Sorry, who claimed that prayer makes people win sporting events?

[Jellicoe]

Originally Posted by AtomicHorror

It's almost as if praying doesn't have a measurable effect on outcomes.

Who claims it did ? Many prayers can simply be thanksgiving for the simple privilege of having a decent meal to eat, never mind an athlete having the sheer joy of competing in the Olympics win or loose.

[Arawn]

I have yet to see any religious athlete thank their god for them losing, also isn't tattoos a no no in the bible?

[Avatarr]

Originally Posted by PDN

Sorry, who claimed that prayer makes people win sporting events?

Well it works for the Oscars every year!!!!

[fryup]

Originally Posted by Actor

I'm going to be saying a special prayer for Katie. God is answering our prayers for the youth with role models such as Katie Taylor.

Michael Conlon and his rosary tattoos is an equally special person - not afraid to publicly pronounce his beliefs in an increasingly hostile world.

God bless Katie!

i feel michael conlon and his rosary beads tattoo is more tribalistic than religious coming from Belfast all that, he's nailing his colours to the mast so to speak

katie i do believe is a Evangelical christan and has a deep faith

http://www.stmarks.ie/go-katie-taylor/

[Benny_Cake]

Originally Posted by fryup

i feel michael conlon and his rosary beads tattoo is more tribalistic than religious coming from Belfast all that, he's nailing his colours to the mast so to speak

I think I read somewhere that he got it to tell his opponents to say their prayers so more gangster than traditional Catholic! Great to see all our boxers, whatever their religious beliefs, doing well though.

[TiltedBrain]

Originally Posted by PDN

Sorry, who claimed that prayer makes people win sporting events?

You hardly think she did it through talent?

[Stompbox]

Originally Posted by Actor

I'm going to be saying a special prayer for Katie. God is answering our prayers for the youth with role models such as Katie Taylor.

Michael Conlon and his rosary tattoos is an equally special person - not afraid to publicly pronounce his beliefs in an increasingly hostile world.

God bless Katie!

What makes the prayer special exactly? I'm not trying to be flippant, I'd just like to know.

Also, would you still consider Katie a role model if she wasn't winning all these matches? As an aside, I don't see how she qualifies as a role model; I'm not belittling her success but she's just punching someone else repeatedly in the head more times than she gets punched herself, it's not something that I'd want the youth at large to practice.

Oh, and regarding the 'increasingly hostile' remark, would you contend that the level of hostility demonstrated by militant atheists exceeds the levels of hostility that were enacted by the Inquisition. If anything the world is becoming less hostile, and that applies to both the religious and the atheistic.

[eviltwin]

Is praying for a win not a form of "cheating"? Surely God would want the best person to win based on their own achievements rather than divine intervention?

[TiltedBrain]

Originally Posted by eviltwin

Is praying for a win not a form of "cheating"? Surely God would want the best person to win based on their own achievements rather than divine intervention?

To be honest I doubt he would condone this type of violent sport anyway, he'd hardly want us praying over it.

[Maire2009]

Ah the old faith debate.

I'm atheist but if praying to a Jesus or a God gives Katie Taylor or anyone else strength they may not find anywhere else, well then good luck to them. Its the individuals choice - I have problems with religions trying to run people's lives, not a person's faith and where they get strength from.

As for she not being a role model - she is an outstanding athlete who practices her discipline in a control environment under strict rules. Rather her than the oompa-loompa, hollister wearing, over weight, alcoholic 20 year old mother of 3 doing nothing but sitting on her arse smoking.

A humble individual at the top of her game - I've massive respect for Katie Taylor and do not care a dot for her beliefs, that's her business. She doesn't seem like one to judge you for not having the same beliefs as her anyway.