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johnfaul · 08-08-2012, 16:02

Hey lads,
Im looking to buy another 17hmr to accompany my .223.
I had a cz 452 heavy barrel 16".
While it was a very accurate gun I hated the stock which was very small I found.
Im looking for another 17hmr to do a bit of recreational " zeroing" and some crows and rabbits.
I have a hawke sidewinder 6-24x56 to go on top.
I have been looking at the anschutz 1517 thumbhole, which I rather like.
I have seen barrels on some of them at 14" and 18" how would this affect the accuracy, has anyone got one of these?
Also I like the weirauch and walnut sako quad.
Can any of you guys give me some advice on this.
Many thanks in advance John

sfakiaman · 08-08-2012, 17:25

Since you like the rifle but not the stock, did you consider a custom stock.

garv123 · 08-08-2012, 17:34

When anschutz is mentioned you cant really go wrong.

Id probably go for the 18" barrel, have one on my marlin and I am happy with it.

Not sure would a 14" barrel suit a hmr? I was told go for 18 over 16 so all the powder would burn before the bullet exits. I just followed the advice from the gunsmith doing the who knows what he was talking about.

Feisar · 08-08-2012, 21:16

I'm in the same boat, have a CZ American that's plenty accurate but the stock is tiny! I'm not massive but I'm very cramped behind it. I'm going the custom stock route.
Having said that, as previously posted, you can't go wrong with Anschutz.

Feisar · 08-08-2012, 21:20

Bullberry done a test on HMR's and velocity: http://www.bullberry.com/HMRdata.html

Not really enough information to be scientific but an indication none the less. If the rounds were weighed, rim thickness measured and there were 50 shots per length of barrel it would have given a clearer picture.

johnfaul · 08-08-2012, 21:23

thanks for the replies guys,
I hadn't considered going for a custom stock but it has gave me something to think about.
Was out with the local shop he hasnt got any anschutz I must ring around tomorrow and try to get a look at one in the flesh.
Do any of you guys use weirauch?

Feisar · 08-08-2012, 21:30

I don't and haven't spoken to anyone who does. All I've heard of them is on the net from people but it's been all good.

What's the length of pull on the Anschutz, might not be much better than the CZ. Make sure you get behind it before you buy. And I mean in the position you usually shoot. My CZ is grand except for prone with a bipod. Which is the position I use it most.

Tikkat3 · 08-08-2012, 21:54

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Originally Posted by johnfaul

thanks for the replies guys,
I hadn't considered going for a custom stock but it has gave me something to think about.
Was out with the local shop he hasnt got any anschutz I must ring around tomorrow and try to get a look at one in the flesh.
Do any of you guys use weirauch?

Syconerd on here had one and might be worth a PM if you are looking for Weihrauch or an opinion on one. The one he was selling was very nice.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...php?p=77640910

ormondprop · 08-08-2012, 22:05

I had a weihrauch 60j in 22 hornet, lovely rifle but the comb is low on them so i needed a comb raiser, was accurate and a great trigger only down fault i had with it was that sometimes the rounds got stuck when you went to reload but that was due to the rim of the the brass getting caught behind the rim of the round underneath it so that was more of a hornet problem than with the rifle, i see they have a new model now that looks nice, it has a straight comb and no iron sights, if i was upgrading my rimfire i'd strongly consider one

johnfaul · 08-08-2012, 22:46

This is what has caught my fancy, does anyone know of any dealers with one so I could get a feel of it in the flesh

garv123 · 08-08-2012, 23:35

Is that in Hmr? If so what in gods name is a yoke that size hanging off the end of it for..Bit OTT

johnfaul · 09-08-2012, 16:22

Its a bit OTT allright its a DM80 mod more for the 17 fireball or 17 remington.
I personally would use a SAK myself

dazed+confused · 09-08-2012, 19:31

Have a look at a CZ 455, semi-heavy varmint barrel with a thumbhole stock.

I just bought one from Fingal Sports in .22LR, he has .17 HMRs in the same setup though. Beautiful rifles.

silverfox1 · 09-08-2012, 22:56

I have a sako quad with the walnut stock myself and its a lovely gun to handle and shoot. Seriously accurate too. Never really had much to do with anschutz but that is a fine looking gun alright. The high mounts and the big bean tin hanging off the barrel really take the look off it though. Id say check out the 3 rifles you mentioned and see which suits best.

ArseLtd · 09-08-2012, 23:21

18" would be best for 17hmr, any less and your losing velocity, you can see here

http://www.bullberry.com/HMRdata.html

08-08-2012, 16:02	#1
johnfaul Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 265 Adverts \| Friends	17hmr choice Hey lads, Im looking to buy another 17hmr to accompany my .223. I had a cz 452 heavy barrel 16". While it was a very accurate gun I hated the stock which was very small I found. Im looking for another 17hmr to do a bit of recreational " zeroing" and some crows and rabbits. I have a hawke sidewinder 6-24x56 to go on top. I have been looking at the anschutz 1517 thumbhole, which I rather like. I have seen barrels on some of them at 14" and 18" how would this affect the accuracy, has anyone got one of these? Also I like the weirauch and walnut sako quad. Can any of you guys give me some advice on this. Many thanks in advance John

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08-08-2012, 17:25	#2
sfakiaman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mayo Posts: 616 Adverts \| Friends	Since you like the rifle but not the stock, did you consider a custom stock.

08-08-2012, 17:34	#3
garv123 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: waterford/UL Posts: 4,351 Adverts \| Friends	When anschutz is mentioned you cant really go wrong. Id probably go for the 18" barrel, have one on my marlin and I am happy with it. Not sure would a 14" barrel suit a hmr? I was told go for 18 over 16 so all the powder would burn before the bullet exits. I just followed the advice from the gunsmith doing the who knows what he was talking about.

08-08-2012, 21:16	#4
Feisar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Belfast/Dublin Posts: 610 Adverts \| Friends	I'm in the same boat, have a CZ American that's plenty accurate but the stock is tiny! I'm not massive but I'm very cramped behind it. I'm going the custom stock route. Having said that, as previously posted, you can't go wrong with Anschutz.

08-08-2012, 21:20	#5
Feisar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Belfast/Dublin Posts: 610 Adverts \| Friends	Bullberry done a test on HMR's and velocity: http://www.bullberry.com/HMRdata.html Not really enough information to be scientific but an indication none the less. If the rounds were weighed, rim thickness measured and there were 50 shots per length of barrel it would have given a clearer picture.

08-08-2012, 21:23	#6
johnfaul Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 265 Adverts \| Friends	thanks for the replies guys, I hadn't considered going for a custom stock but it has gave me something to think about. Was out with the local shop he hasnt got any anschutz I must ring around tomorrow and try to get a look at one in the flesh. Do any of you guys use weirauch?

08-08-2012, 21:30	#7
Feisar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Belfast/Dublin Posts: 610 Adverts \| Friends	I don't and haven't spoken to anyone who does. All I've heard of them is on the net from people but it's been all good. What's the length of pull on the Anschutz, might not be much better than the CZ. Make sure you get behind it before you buy. And I mean in the position you usually shoot. My CZ is grand except for prone with a bipod. Which is the position I use it most.

08-08-2012, 22:05	#9
ormondprop Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Tipperary Posts: 1,243 Adverts \| Friends	I had a weihrauch 60j in 22 hornet, lovely rifle but the comb is low on them so i needed a comb raiser, was accurate and a great trigger only down fault i had with it was that sometimes the rounds got stuck when you went to reload but that was due to the rim of the the brass getting caught behind the rim of the round underneath it so that was more of a hornet problem than with the rifle, i see they have a new model now that looks nice, it has a straight comb and no iron sights, if i was upgrading my rimfire i'd strongly consider one

08-08-2012, 22:46	#10
johnfaul Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 265 Adverts \| Friends	This is what has caught my fancy, does anyone know of any dealers with one so I could get a feel of it in the flesh

08-08-2012, 23:35	#11
garv123 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: waterford/UL Posts: 4,351 Adverts \| Friends	Is that in Hmr? If so what in gods name is a yoke that size hanging off the end of it for..Bit OTT

09-08-2012, 16:22	#12
johnfaul Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 265 Adverts \| Friends	Its a bit OTT allright its a DM80 mod more for the 17 fireball or 17 remington. I personally would use a SAK myself

09-08-2012, 19:31	#13
dazed+confused Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 321 Adverts \| Friends	Have a look at a CZ 455, semi-heavy varmint barrel with a thumbhole stock. I just bought one from Fingal Sports in .22LR, he has .17 HMRs in the same setup though. Beautiful rifles.

09-08-2012, 22:56	#14
silverfox1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: kilkenny Posts: 167 Adverts \| Friends	I have a sako quad with the walnut stock myself and its a lovely gun to handle and shoot. Seriously accurate too. Never really had much to do with anschutz but that is a fine looking gun alright. The high mounts and the big bean tin hanging off the barrel really take the look off it though. Id say check out the 3 rifles you mentioned and see which suits best.

09-08-2012, 23:21	#15
ArseLtd Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 203 Adverts \| Friends	18" would be best for 17hmr, any less and your losing velocity, you can see here http://www.bullberry.com/HMRdata.html