[Doc_Savage]

Hi all, i was just trying to find the fighting schedule for the olympics so i don't miss Katie Taylors fights, when i stumbled across this article; http://www.independent.ie/sport/othe...m-3111128.html

now i think that katie is a wonderful ambassador for us and for boxing in general but when i see lines like this;

I want to thank everyone for the prayers. God has been so great to me over the last few years. I achieve nothing without him.

I twitch.... i don't really like lines like that in general, but when someone like an olympian says something like that when in the same article they say

It's years and years of hard work just to get there, now I'm going to be an Olympian

i really twitch.... i have nothing bad to say about the girl but surely when you are able to recognise the hard work that has been done as she can, you would find it hard to attribute it to god?

there are many people that do this(actors, musicians, politicians etc.), and i think it's silly.. i suppose that it irks me would be the best way to put it.

any other opinions?

[Galvasean]

I find it weird when sportspeople cite God as the reason for their success, but you never see a footballer cry to the heavens, "Why have you forsaken me Lord?!?!" when they miss a penalty.

This is Kaka.

He is on a 200k per week contract with Real Madrid. For someone who belongs to Jesus he sure is taking his sweet time selling all of his belongings and giving the money to the poor...

[JamesGW]

Originally Posted by Doc_Savage

any other opinions?

Nope ....... They wouldn't allow me to post what I think of people who attribute anything to god ..... or what should be done with those people .....

[MrPudding]

It bugs the fcuking sh1t out of me. It really, really winds me up. The fact that some stupid fcuking footballer thinks god help him stick a ball in the back of a net and does not stop to think "perhaps god's time would be better spent stopping babies dying in Africa" drives me up the wall.

MrP

[Einhard]

Originally Posted by Galvasean

I find it weird when sportspeople cite God as the reason for their success, but you never see a footballer cry to the heavens, "Why have you forsaken me Jesus?!?!" when they miss a penalty.

This is Kaka.

He is on a 200k per week contract with Real Madrid. For someone who belongs to Jesus he sure is taking his sweet time selling all of his belongings and giving the money to the poor...

As far as I'm aware, Kaka does donate a large percentage of his earnings to charity.

As to the OP: I find it amusing, but why would I find it irritating? Too many atheists get their knickers in a twist over things like this.

[bluewolf]

I think people find it irritating because it's either trivial things you can't imagine an omnipotent deity would give a damn about, or because it's stuff like a team of doctors working their asses off to save someone and that someone then goes "oh yeah god did it" bypassing them entirely

[Sarky]

If anything, it makes me kinda sad that such people think so little of themselves, and feel so incapable of achieving anything on their own merit. Great athletes are great because they train hard and dedicate themselves to a sport, not because god heard them pray harder than a child dying of starvation.

[Doc_Savage]

that's it on the nose sarky.

They know they put in the hard work, they still feel the need to praise the intervention of god. and i suppose the best way to describe my reaction to it is like this...



disappointment...

[joseph brand]

Let's not forget Fabrice Muamba who was struck down with a heart attack, by god.
God then fixed him with sprinkly magic and unicorns.

Of course it was nothing to do with the team of well trained doctors and heart specialists. He would have survived even if they weren't medical personnel at all, but a gang of florists tending to the dead man.

Also, I hear that god is far more interested in helping footballers score than anything else. He supports Liverpool.

[Galvasean]

Originally Posted by Einhard

As far as I'm aware, Kaka does donate a large percentage of his earnings to charity.

There's no real sacrifice there though. A guy reeling in more than 200k a week can easily donate large sums to charity and still live the life of obscene luxury. He's not exactly living the humble life Jesus preached of.

[Galvasean]

Originally Posted by joseph brand

Let's not forget Fabrice Muamba who was struck down with a heart attack, by god.
God then fixed him with sprinkly magic and unicorns.

Of course it was nothing to do with the team of well trained doctors and heart specialists. He would have survived even if they weren't medical personnel at all, but a gang of florists tending to the dead man.

Muamba was very appreciative of the doctors, physios etc. who helped save his life. It's strange that he is often partially quoted to make it look like he was thanking God and God alone. I don't see why he gets used as an example of the 'thank God but not the doctors' mentality when there are a lot of much more intellectually honest examples floating around.

[joseph brand]

Originally Posted by Galvasean

Muamba was very appreciative of the doctors, physios etc. who helped save his life. It's strange that he is often partially quoted to make it look like he was thanking God and God alone. I don't see why he gets used as an example of the 'thank God but not the doctors' mentality when there are a lot of much more intellectually honest examples floating around.

I'm confused.
Muamba did of course thank the doctors but Christians following the story were quick to thank god. I hope I didn't come across as saying that he himself ignored the work of the medical team.

Allah be praised!

[King Mob]

For me it's more annoying when a disaster happens, killing 100's or 1000's, but when a few survivors are found it's described as a miracle.
The fact that no one crying miracle gets the direct and complete contradiction bothers me no end.

[fitz0]

It makes me think slightly less of someone when they thank god instead of whoever is actually responsible for helping them, but no, it doesn't especially annoy me.

[krudler]

ah god, the ultimate troll, something good happen? god looking out for you. something bad happen? well thats just the nature of free will.

shenanigaaaaaans!