[baddebt]

looks like Drake was reading your Thread Paddy

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/i...y-rap-and-sing


Lupe fiasco as well

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/i...slaughterhouse

[P4DDY2K11]

Originally Posted by Briando

I like Rhianna, she has her own unique sound. I know alot of you think she sucks, but consider this.. why do all the other rappers want to collaborate with her? Cause she is awesome. SLAM DUNK!!!!1

She's not hip hop.

Originally Posted by baddebt

looks like Drake was reading your Thread Paddy

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/i...y-rap-and-sing


Lupe fiasco as well

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/i...slaughterhouse

What???

[baddebt]

Originally Posted by P4DDY2K11

She's not hip hop.



What???

that was exactly my re-action when I read the articles

[baddebt]

ok here goes ,


Purely my own opinion of course
Outkast are over-rated
Biggie only had 1 good Album
I don't rate Ludacris at all
Raekwon's latest Album "Shaolin Vs Wu-Tang was bitterly disappointing

[mufcboy1999]

great idea for a thread

Eminem was hip hops first true global star and introduced a whole generation properly to hip hop and other artists and is going to go down as the goat when he's gone for what he's achieved.

Commercial hip hop is dead and if its not, its defiantly on its last legs. Techno and pop have all but killed it thanks to your drake's, lil waynes etc.

why didn't the likes of dr dre and snoop who are multi millionaires help pay for nate doggs medical bills? real friends...i think not.

2pac murder was the biggest set up ever and micheal jackson was murdered.

[P4DDY2K11]

Originally Posted by mufcboy1999

great idea for a thread

Eminem was hip hops first true global star and introduced a whole generation properly to hip hop and other artists and is going to go down as the goat when he's gone for what he's achieved.

Commercial hip hop is dead and if its not, its defiantly on its last legs. Techno and pop have all but killed it thanks to your drake's, lil waynes etc.

why didn't the likes of dr dre and snoop who are multi millionaires help pay for nate doggs medical bills? real friends...i think not.

2pac murder was the biggest set up ever and micheal jackson was murdered.

I agree completely with most of this apart from techno playing a part in killing hip hop. I'm partial to a bit of techno and believe me it's not similar to the likes of the beats wayne and drake and nicki and all that lot are using, they use a different type of EDM, it's like that david guetta shít, he's not really techno, he's electro, very similar to the stuff you hear in todays hip hop. If you want to hear real techno listen to a song called "1010" by Boyz Noize, i can guarantee that you'll hate it but it's real techno and commercial hip hop wasnt affected by the likes of it.

I agree pacs murder was a set up, not gang related like others will tell you, it had to be either government or record label related. I also agree MJ was murdered but god knows what's behind that.

[P4DDY2K11]

Originally Posted by baddebt

ok here goes ,


Purely my own opinion of course
Outkast are over-rated
Biggie only had 1 good Album
I don't rate Ludacris at all
Raekwon's latest Album "Shaolin Vs Wu-Tang was bitterly disappointing

Why do you find outkast overrated?
Personally i like biggies ready to die and life after death, 2 very consistent albums imo.

I agree on your other points, I despise ludacris' music and Rae being one of my favourite rappers i was horribly disappointed by shaolin vs wu tang.

[HalloweenJack]

I hate all the crossovers and watering down of hip-hop music. Some people are just putting out dance music at this stage.

As mentioned above, the likes of Busta and Snoop have lost whatever they once had. Some rappers need to know when to step away, which is especially ironic if you ever listened to Busta's song "Legend of the Fall-Offs".

Dre owes nobody anything and if he wants to spend the next ten years working on Detox, he should.

I like Drake but can't stand Lil' Wayne.

I agree that death cemented 2Pac and Biggie's legendary status. Just looking at other rappers, their quality definitely dipped over the years.

[baddebt]

Originally Posted by P4DDY2K11

Why do you find outkast overrated?
Personally i like biggies ready to die and life after death, 2 very consistent albums imo.

I agree on your other points, I despise ludacris' music and Rae being one of my favourite rappers i was horribly disappointed by shaolin vs wu tang.

Ready to die is a great album ,
just don't have Life after death in the same bracket really ,
could never just get into outkast past or present , just never enjoyed their ****

[mufcboy1999]

+1 on outkast, I cant call them over-rated as I didn't listen too much of them but i do find them hard to get into I must say.

[Jimmy Iovine]

Originally Posted by Makaveli

Jay-Z is still relevant in his 40s without being socially conscious or rapping about drugs and bitches.

He is one of the few.

I actually just realised there that Jigga was 2 and a half years older than Biggie. I always had it in my head that Biggie was almost like an older brother to Jay. I never knew that he was so much younger than him.

[HalloweenJack]

Best rap group is a toss up between Wu Tang and Outkast.

Also, I've always been on Nas' side as opposed to Jay'Z.

[Jason Todd]

Originally Posted by P4DDY2K11

At one point in his career Busta was one of the best rappers on the planet.

Agreed!

Outkast and B.I.G. are overrated

Ludacris and Method Man are underrated

Lil' Wayne could have been one of the greatest, but he riggidy-wrecked himself

I thought Ice Cube's Raw Footage was a poor album, a lot of my mates disagree.

Rap's collabos with Rock elevated it in the 80's/90's (Run DMC/ Aerosmith, nu-metal) but the collabos in the last 5-10 years with Pop/Dance have ruined it.

I worry Eminem is finished. The hunger may be gone and I'd hate to see him become a joke figure (Snoop anyone?), like someone the old Em would have destroyed on a track.

My two cents anyway! Good to get that off my chest!

[FishBowel]

Most famous rap samples were already used by other rappers.

[latenia]

House of Pain's first album is a classic.

Live hip-hop is generally terrible-I've gone to just about every gig by American artists in Dublin over the last 15 years and I'd say about 5 of those were genuinely great concerts. The rest always have poor sound and shouting mc's doing lame crowd participation "Wave your hands in the air like you just don't care" etc.

Late 90s Puff Daddy, Ma$e, Biggie etc is great commercial pop music