[TelePaul]

That looks like a feedback controlling device to me. Could be wrong of course, but it'd be an odd place to position a mic.

[madtheory]

Originally Posted by DaDumTish

if you reverse the leads on a speaker you WILL notice a difference

which is the point all along .

reverse cabled speakers have less low end and sound choked.

at least any i have heard this done to have had this happen.

You mean when both speakers are in phase, but the polarity is wrong? I could imagine this happening with a really good, really powerful system because most audio signals are asymmetrical- they have more positive energy than negative. So that could make it quieter. However, I can't honestly say that I ever noticed. Two speakers out of phase makes me nauseous though.

[PaulBrewer]

One of the (many) reasons I dislike department stores is the random way speakers are out of phase !

[madtheory]

On the other hand, swinging on of those cigarette pack guitar amps around on the end of a guitar lead makes an excellent Leslie speaker.

[jtsuited]

Originally Posted by PaulBrewer

One of the (many) reasons I dislike department stores is the random way speakers are out of phase !

haha my personal favourite is when they play certain songs (the other day it was a song off Pet Sounds) and you hear the drums coming from 60 feet away and all you hear from the nearest speaker is the vocals and some other bits.

[madtheory]

Ya that's great crack! Especially Beatles.

Wondering about the Pet Sounds old fashioned stereo thing you're describing- AFAIK the only stereo mix is the Mark Linett one from 1997, and that does not have the extreme panning you describe? I'd like to hear a mix like that! It's a great way to hear how they did stuff.

I've been listening to Revolver and Pepper in mono and those are generally better mixes- no Beatle was ever present for a stereo mix in the sixties except for Abbey Road.

[jtsuited]

Originally Posted by madtheory

Ya that's great crack! Especially Beatles.

Wondering about the Pet Sounds old fashioned stereo thing you're describing- AFAIK the only stereo mix is the Mark Linett one from 1997, and that does not have the extreme panning you describe? I'd like to hear a mix like that! It's a great way to hear how they did stuff.

I've been listening to Revolver and Pepper in mono and those are generally better mixes- no Beatle was ever present for a stereo mix in the sixties except for Abbey Road.

just thinking about it now.....yup it was definitely a song off Pet Sounds. the one that goes 'blah blah blah blah, how independent I'd grown, but that's not me'

[kunst nugget]

Originally Posted by jtsuited

just thinking about it now.....yup it was definitely a song off Pet Sounds. the one that goes 'blah blah blah blah, how independent I'd grown, but that's not me'

The Blah, Blah, Blah Song? One of Brian's best…

[madtheory]

That would be You still Believe in Me. No extreme panning on the Mark Linnet mix. Stuff is panned to one side, but there's a nice wash of reverb to spread it. Maybe they'd accidentally connected the phase difference instead of stereo, so anything that's panned centrally gets cancelled. I've definitely heard that problem before with piped music. That and extreme settings of "stereo enhancers".

[jtsuited]

Originally Posted by madtheory

That would be You still Believe in Me. No extreme panning on the Mark Linnet mix. Stuff is panned to one side, but there's a nice wash of reverb to spread it. Maybe they'd accidentally connected the phase difference instead of stereo, so anything that's panned centrally gets cancelled. I've definitely heard that problem before with piped music. That and extreme settings of "stereo enhancers".

ah that must have been it.

[PaulBrewer]

http://mhsecure.com/metric_halo/prod...rip.html#tab=3

Some interesting reading on mic delaying .