[thecommietommy]

Originally Posted by Sand

I cant say I'm any more bothered about the north of Ireland than I am about...say...Newcastle.

So long as people aren't throwing nail-bombs into restaurants packed with kids and families because they're annoyed about Bloody Sunday then everything else can be sorted out by having a chat. And once people aren't murdering each other over something that happened 40 years ago, the news out of Northern Ireland is about as interesting as the news out of Newcastle. This is actually a good thing. The various groups in Northern Ireland have tended to look to outside allies to solve their issues rather than actually talking to each other.

Boredom with the eternal petty hatred and point scoring of Northern Ireland isn't new either.

"Then came the Great War: Every institution, almost, in the world was strained. Great Empires have been overturned. The whole map of Europe has been changed. The position of countries has been violently altered. The modes of thought of men, the whole outlook on affairs, the grouping of parties, all have en countered violent and tremendous changes in the deluge of the world. But as the deluge subsides and the waters fall short, we see the dreary steeples of Fermanagh and Tyrone emerging once again. The integrity of their quarrel is one of the few institutions that has been unaltered in the cataclysm which has swept the world."

Winston Churchill - 1922.

Northern Ireland - boring the world with its petty hatred since 1609.

Well we're getting into an historical discussion but since you brought it up and it does relate to them type of state the north was. Churchill, now there's a good reference to quote, the man who partitioned the country, sent in the Black and Tans, Auxilliary's, made excuses for the burning of Cork etc Says it all about you politcal viewpoint that you agree with a man who says " The integrity of their quarrel is one of the few institutions that has been unaltered " when he was one of the main founders of the state. Ah yes, those Catholics entrapped in the orange state, terrible people altogether who after 50 years of gross thuggery and discrimination had the audacity of copying the Civil Rights movement in the southern states of America and to ask for a fairer society north of the border.

[thecommietommy]

Originally Posted by Kaiser2000

My impression (and it seems to have been echoed by the various native NI posters on this thread) is that most people "up North" are as jaded with the political situation as we are here and just want to get on with their lives at this stage.

As for the lack of coverage here.. is it really that surprising? Land border or no it is still a foreign country and I wouldn't expect to see anything beyond major events on ROI telly any more than I would expect to see stories about the local happenings in Newcastle. Similarly, I doubt Germans get many local stories about Holland for example and they share a border too.

Agree with you. The OP complains it's not talked about enough, but what really major has happened in the last week or so, the riot in Ardoyne and a dissident RIRA man filmed firing a few shots. By the end of this week, their will be X amount of armed robberies in Dublin and probably a murder or two. Do I expect the rest of the country to get into a big discussion on it on boards.ie ?

As for the inevitable Unification talk.. why on earth would ANY country in its right mind want to join our parochial, corrupt, immature little "Republic"? Let's get our own house and problems in order before we start looking to take on someone else's.

Best thing that could happen I think with regards the "Northern question" is it's declared an independent state but while retaining the benefits of links to both the Republic and GB - that way everyone wins, not least the aforementioned poor feckers who just want to get on with their lives.

Don't agree, having two economy's on a small island pulling in different directions is stupid. Ah sure, let's have a People's Republic of Cork, an independent Connacht while we're at it eh ??

[junder]

Originally Posted by thecommietommy

Agree with you. The OP complains it's not talked about enough, but what really major has happened in the last week or so, the riot in Ardoyne and a dissident RIRA man filmed firing a few shots. By the end of this week, their will be X amount of armed robberies in Dublin and probably a murder or two. Do I expect the rest of the country to get into a big discussion on it on boards.ie ?

Don't agree, having two economy's on a small island pulling in different directions is stupid. Ah sure, let's have a People's Republic of Cork, an independent Connacht while we're at it eh ??

I didn't complaign, I asked a question, there is a difference. So you disagree agree with 2 economy's on a small island, does that mean your against Scottish independence?

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Originally Posted by Boulevardier

The NI news on UTV and BBC-NI almost never mentions anything here in the ROI unless there is a NI aspect to it.

Not true - actually I'm surprised by the ROI news reports in UTV and BBC to be fair.

[southsiderosie]

MOD NOTE:

As per usual, this thread has veered wildly off-course.

As a reminder, this thread is NOT about Scottish nationalism, the evils of the Black and Tans, or how NI Catholics would vote in a referendum on the national question. Yet some posters here seem confused about that, despite the fact that there has already been a moderator warning to stay on topic.

It is getting increasingly difficult to not see the consistent derailing of NI-related threads as anything but trolling, and it is beyond tiresome at this point. If you can't stay on topic, and/or your sole contribution to these threads is an inflammatory one-liner with no links or rationale behind it, you will not be long for the forum because we're getting sick of mopping up threads involving the same people over and over again.