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28-06-2012, 19:37   #16
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Nacewa playing FB has no effect on ireland, whats hurts us the most is Botha and Du Preez at munster and Afoa at ulster.
My point was that WE as supporters have a high expectation of our national team based in some part on winning Heineken cups with non-irish players in key positions.

We are not as good as we think we are and ranked 8th expecting to beat 1st ranked and World Cup winners is pie in the sky.

What causes us to be so optimistic.
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28-06-2012, 19:42   #17
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No one was expecting us to beat them (which is part of the reason I find the 19-22 loss more galling, as it was totally possible).

They expect us not to lose by 60 flipping points.

We lost by less and managed to score 4 tries playing with 14 men last time we were down there.
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28-06-2012, 19:43   #18
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60-0 was miles worse. Possibly the most painful match I have ever watched. The odd moment here and there, I suddenly remember we lost so badly and I just go "****"
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28-06-2012, 19:47   #19
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the moral of this story is kidney needed to grow some stones (no pun intended)
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28-06-2012, 19:53   #20
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Losing to the world champions in their house by a last-gasp drop goal hurts, but there's no shame in it. You might argue about whether there's honour in it, but it's certainly a neutral result at worst.

Losing by sixty points and getting bagelled against ANYONE is a disgrace. It's an embarrassment for all concerned and a stain on the record books. How long has it been since we were held to zero? How long has it been since we conceded sixty?

One was a hell of an effort that just fell short. The other was eighty minutes of total failure. One suggests a team that's almost there: the other suggests a team bereft of ideas.
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28-06-2012, 19:58   #21
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They hurt for two very different reasons though.

There is no shame in losing by a last minute drop goal to NZ but to get that close and think they might finally do it only to have that shattered is pretty ****ing painful to take.
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