[Nuts102]

Im trying to cut out bread and potatoes from my diet but not sure what to replace them with. I was told to try brown bread and baked poatoes but im not sure. Is their any healthier substitute for either as i try increase my weightloss.

[Scioch]

You dont have to substitute the bread for a better type of bread or spud for a better spud. Just stop eating bread and spuds and make up the calories ya need with some nice healthy veg.

[lynchy101]

Or else just eat bread.

Calories in < Calories out is the ONLY thing that matters in weightloss.

[Stench Blossoms]

Originally Posted by lynchy101

Or else just eat bread.

Calories in < Calories out is the ONLY thing that matters in weightloss.

....And usually people reduce calories by not eating bread.

It also helps with bloated bellys.

[meijin]

Originally Posted by lynchy101

Calories in < Calories out is the ONLY thing that matters in weightloss.

It is not.

[dorgasm]

Originally Posted by lynchy101

Or else just eat bread.

Calories in < Calories out is the ONLY thing that matters in weightloss.

Can't agree. Anecdotal but, I didn't start to see proper weight loss until I cut out bread, rice, pasta and all other starchy carbs. Drop them, replace with cauliflower, brocolli, spinach and any other leafy vegetables and it'll fly off.

[AhInFairness]

Cauliflower mash is my new favourite thing instead of potatoes. Add a little garlic and a little butter and its lovely.

I've also cut out bread and potatoes (and sugar and all processed food) and the difference I feel is well worth it. I wouldn't bother replacing them tbh, just cut them out.

[Dave!]

@dorgasm

That's because carbs are generally very calorie-dense. Vegetables are generally very low in calories by comparison, so of course you saw the weight drop off. If you consumed the same calories by eating vegetables as you did eating carbs then you wouldn't lose the weight. Similarly if you had reduced your carb intake so that you're only consuming as many calories as you currently do with veg, then you'd have lost the weight.

It's probably not as filling to have 1 potato as it is to have a load of brocolli though! So while it is ultimately about calorie consumption and metabolism, other factors are at play too, which mean it might make sense for one person to cut out carbs, someone else might be able to just eat smaller servings.

[dorgasm]

Nope that's the thing you see. I started trying to lose weight in October, starting at 128kg. I managed to lose about 3kg just from the deficit but I plateaud and went off the rails because I wasn't seeing results for weeks and weeks. Then I read about low carb, high fat from this forum and I started with that. I was using myfitnesspal during both attempts. I was running the same calorie deficit as I was both times. It's also worth noting that I was very bloated and sluggish while eating carbs. I don't replace the carbs with just veg. I have eggs, cheese, mayo, peanut/almond butter, nuts etc. These are thing I couldn't use in my diet while eating carbs as they are very calorie dense and I'd have exceeded my fat macros too. I find these much tastier and filling than a few slices of bread or pasta. On top of all this, I'm now down to 115kg and I'm still losing it at a good rate.

Like I said, it's anecdotal so what works for me (and many, many others too) may not work for some but I can honestly say that cutting out the carbs and processed crap is the best decision I've ever made with my diet.

[rubadub]

Iceberg lettuce is a good subsitute for bread, use if for wraps. Ryvitas are very lightweight so look and feel substantial next to the same weight of bread, while they have similar energy values.

Originally Posted by Dave!

If you consumed the same calories by eating vegetables as you did eating carbs then you wouldn't lose the weight.

Have you seen any studies on this? Calories are an energy measure, they are just an estimate of what energy humans get from them.

There was a study showing you would put on more fat eating 500kcal of sugar per day Vs 500kcal of alcohol. I find this true anecdotally. I used to take in massive calories in alcohol and not put on the theoretical fat levels I have seen quoted (e.g. 1lb of fat per excess 3500kcal).

Also if you eat 500kcal of raw rice you do not get the same energy from it as 500kcal of overcooked rice.

[Chancer3001]

Cut out all bread, even brown bread. They break down too quickly, cause your blood sugar to spike and so your body stores up the extra energy as fat(once the muscles get full, which is quickly). this is even if youve eaten nothing all day!

So yeah, how do you get full eating without bread and spuds?

My top tips would be:

1 - eat more meat. EG if your sandwich is now a salad, add in more meat. Fills you up and protein is excellent.
2 - Lettuce - Lots and lots. Works if you like the tatse. I love iceberg lettuce.
3 - Cauliflower and broccoli. Very Very filling. Again, the taste is what will make or break it.
4 - if you HAVE to have potatoes, go for sweet potatoes. Taste better and break down slower. Fairly widely available these days.


I gave up postatoes and bread a few months back. Awkward at the start but its no problem at all now.
If its for pure weight loss, might I suggest also giving up dairy?

[Nuts102]

Originally Posted by Chancer3001

Cut out all bread, even brown bread. They break down too quickly, cause your blood sugar to spike and so your body stores up the extra energy as fat(once the muscles get full, which is quickly). this is even if youve eaten nothing all day!

So yeah, how do you get full eating without bread and spuds?

My top tips would be:

1 - eat more meat. EG if your sandwich is now a salad, add in more meat. Fills you up and protein is excellent.
2 - Lettuce - Lots and lots. Works if you like the tatse. I love iceberg lettuce.
3 - Cauliflower and broccoli. Very Very filling. Again, the taste is what will make or break it.
4 - if you HAVE to have potatoes, go for sweet potatoes. Taste better and break down slower. Fairly widely available these days.


I gave up postatoes and bread a few months back. Awkward at the start but its no problem at all now.
If its for pure weight loss, might I suggest also giving up dairy?

Male 24 and 5:5 height. Weight 11st 11 and b.m.i 27.4. Looking to get down to ideal weigt of 10st 5.

Breakfast.
Ham and Cheese sandwhich.
Bowl of Crunchy Nuts no milk or sugar.
Tea low fat milk half spoon of sugar.

Lunch.
Ham and Cheese sandwhich.
Tin of Tuna in brine and apple or banana.
Small tin of beans and bit of fruit.

Dinner.
Oven chips, baked potatoes, or potatoes with veg.
Steak
Fish Mackrel or smoked Haddock.
Breast of Chicken on the bone.

Not the biggest fan of vegetables but eat them. Trying to add more fruit to the diet. Biggest problem is probably on the weekend going out having a few saturday night and probably a few drinks sunday.

For today had a 30 minute walk. 25 minute cycle and 60 mins of 5 a side. Have weights and looking to ease into that for weight loss.

Had a vitiman c tablet with a half bowl of cruncy nut and no milk or sugar also a cup of tea.
Then a food vitiman supplement and a small tin of beans and a banana.
For dinner 2 baked potatoes peas and a chicken breast on te bone with gravy.
Tonight a slice of toast and cup of tea.

Im sure this can be improved on but it can be worse. Say yesterday had a sandwhich for lunch and breakfast.

Diet is probably terrible and the drink i presume is whats slowing any results. Any advice welcome im sure i am probably doing alot wrong.

[christmas2012]

ryvita rice cakes or rice,it does help you lose weight but watch the portions,although it is less fatty less carbohydrate that turns into glycogen that turns into fat,so you store less when you eat these things - but dont finish the whole pack of rice cakes though watch the calorie intake,the great thing about the rice cakes i buy is they tell you how many calories per pack

[Chancer3001]

get rid of the crunchy nut cornflakes my man! Sugar is ridiculously high in those. If you have time, eat eggs.

Nice bit of bread there with all the sandwiches too. If you can cut down on that do i.e. salad for lunch.

And yeah, like the rest of us, the booze and everything that goes with it can be a killer

[christmas2012]

you can get low cal booze but yeah be careful everything is portions for me chocolate and bread is the killer,i have to give up chocolate im off the bread for over a month now,sometimes when i get a bit pecky i do have some but i only limit myself to two slices a day,and its all rice cakes,and rice and ryvita all the way - it does work!