[dj jarvis]

Originally Posted by Dudess

Whatever about semi states (and I appreciate ESB technical staff get paid very well - shame lazy people, especially the braindead dregs of humanity who post comments to TheJournal.ie, apply this to admin staff also) I would not believe for a second that county engineers are on 150k. I'm familiar with local government, having worked there and having a parent who worked there for 35 years - that kind of figure is just alien to the local government world.

the sindo and times reported about a year ago about county wage bills , on the back of the house hold charge being used for local services , but it was flagged that SOME staff in the local system were being paid loads compared to private sector , granted i never insinuated all were being paid overly , but in fairness a lot are , and the longer they ride the system the more they get

some county managers were reported as getting near 200k ( incl pension and perks )
the esb is a unfair example considering the astronomical wage they are on , but i would find it hard to believe that even today a civil engineer with state or semi state is earning anything other that 60k plus a year , but im open to correction on this one

because i know one person who works for a gov dept as a buildings maintenance man for the last 15 years and he is on just under 55k per year so would imagine civil engineer would be on more ?

[discus]

Afraid you're wrong Dudess, there are quite a few on 120k/150k. I've seen the roles advertised myself.

[Ms.M]

Originally Posted by Dudess

Whatever about semi states (and I appreciate ESB technical staff get paid very well - shame lazy people, especially the braindead dregs of humanity who post comments to TheJournal.ie, apply this to admin staff also) I would not believe for a second that county engineers are on 150k. I'm familiar with local government, having worked there and having a parent who worked there for 35 years - that kind of figure is just alien to the local government world.

Thanks Dudess. I was hoping someone would challenge that. I'd have no idea what county engineers earn but I know they don't drive nice enough cars to be making 150k!

[freeze4real]

Originally Posted by padd b1975

Still trying to get to grips with the touch screen typing??

Lol I just noticed those grammatical errors caused by auto correction on the iPhone.

[newmug]

Originally Posted by Shane732

For a professionally qualified person €60k is nowhere near the high end of the scale.

Hell a very good newly professionally qualified person is capable of earning €60k.

Yourself and the OP's friend need a good kick in he arse. I am a fully qualified electronic enginer. I started working for Intel (probably the most famous engineering company in the world) in 2003, I was earning 290 Euro per week. Yes, you read that correctly. By 2011 I was earning E500 per week. This was for 24 hour call-out availability, day and night, weekends, and even Christmas day. Thats what all the engineers in my area were on. I was made redundant last year along with 300 others. Only 3 people of my crew of 21 were kept. I didnt get a fraction of E60K for my redundancy after 8 years of loyal service. OP, your friend will get a nasty shock when he graduates if he thinks E60K per year is not a good wage.

[Ms.M]

My sister was on far less. She was working on the national grid. She's a qualified chemical engineer though, not a civil one. I don't know if that would make any difference. She'd also only just qualified so it was a starting wage.
I don't think they typically make that much. Mind you I don't think they typically earn that much in the private sector either. Until they've got a lot of experience. She's on a little more than 60k now and she's got engineers working under her authority. 60k is a very good wage, even for an engineer.

[mikeystipey]

Originally Posted by Battered Mars Bar

60k is a great wage in the real world. I'd assume he'd have a lot of opportunities for nixers as well outside of that...doing stuff like ...engineering with civility and other such things

Engineering with civility...I did chortle

[MysticalRain]

60k is a great wage considering most civil engineers I know are either on the dole or have emigrated after the construction bubble burst.

[Odysseus]

I would think that it is just about ok for my qualifications and experience. But then again I do earn more than than, I just have to do private work to boost my HSE wage in order to get it.

[Dudess]

I doubt I'll ever earn 60k.

[RMD]

Depends on how ambitious you are. For many 60k is an amazing wage, for others it's an awful wage. It all depends on how far you plan to go.

[newmug]

Originally Posted by RMD

Depends on how ambitious you are. For many 60k is an amazing wage, for others it's an awful wage. It all depends on how far you plan to go.

YYeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. It all depends on how much you wish for it

[Sea Filly]

Originally Posted by Dudess

I doubt I'll ever earn 60k.

Me neither, unless I go down the PhD road. But that would mean serious financial hardship to get there, and I'm 28 now so...

[Sea Filly]

Originally Posted by RMD

Depends on how ambitious you are. For many 60k is an amazing wage, for others it's an awful wage. It all depends on how far you plan to go.

Should ambition be measured by how much you earn? So many people love their jobs, or work in very rewarding careers but could never dream of earning 60k per annum. Meanwhile others get paid lots but hate going in each and every day.

[Dudess]

Ideal age to be doing a phd IMO - still young but old enough to have the maturity for it. However it's a massive commitment and it's tough. Awful brokeness too as you say.