[Tipp Man]

Originally Posted by forfuxsake

I've done a few jobs in me life and teaching is one of them. It's also the hardest. It's pretty much non-stop for when you are teaching. It's not like the typical job in which you can shuffle papers if you are tired/hungover/depressed. It takes a lot of attention, concentration, effort and energy and you have to be alert the whole time. Every June I have felt that I really couldn't handle another month without imploding. But I looked forward to starting back from mid-august.

I wonder how secondary teachers in England manage at all so when they have "only" 6 weeks summer holidays and a host of paperwork for the school and department that would make an Irish teacher faint if they saw it

[TheStook]

Secondary School teachers get it unbelievably easy, not only to they get 3 months off, they get Mid terms, Christmas, Easter etc....Secondary school is only like 170 days of a year..And most secondary schools aren't too bad in terms of behaviour, especially with senior students who want to do well..

[Jogathon]

Teachers wages are calculated on a 10 month wage (approx), which is then paid over 12 months. So teacher are not actually paid for the summer, but they do get money into their account over the summer.

[SEPT 23 1989]

Hope i have the right figures here

Secondary school teacher starts off on €30,900

35 weeks 22 hours

€40.00 per hour


after 25 years €59,000

35 weeks 22 hours

€76.00 per hour

[mike65]

Call centre - 12.00 per hour if you lucky!

[OS119]

Originally Posted by Agricola

... It's not coal mining!

its not far off.

my mrs is a primary school teacher, she has 39 kids from 2 different school years in her class, 7 of whom have SEN's. she is the SEN coordinator for the school, she is current 'backstopping' for the NQT in the classroom next door - this means she's doing all the fcuktards planning, and checking all her marking.

most of the time her packed lunch returns unopened, and 3 days out of 5 she will get home at 5pm having not had a chance to have a piss since she walked in at 7.45am. two nights a week she won't be home till 6.30, and when she has parents evening she won't get a break between finishing teaching at 3.15 and the last parent leaving at 9.30.

she almost never has less than an hours work to do in the evening, on most nights it will be about 90 mins, and on some - like now, its 2 to 3 hours every single night - she will spend about 2 hours working every saturday morning, and in celebration of our half term next week, she has booked 3 full days of report writing. 39 kids, eight subjects each - and then check, and re-write, all the work of the fcuktard next door.

my wife has to deal with 9 yo children who have not been toilet trained, been kicked in the stomach while pregnant, launched at by a mong parent when my wife said that all the things the parent said the child can't do, the child can do. like getting dressed on their own. she has also had 'hore' scratched into her car paintwork. probably by the same mong.

of the six weeks she gets off in the summer, one of them will be planning for the next academic year.

any volunteers?

[nox001]

People have to get it into their heads that a teachers pay is spread out over the year, but in reality they are really only getting paid for the hours they work, they could treble their pay during the year and not pay them for the summer which would probably annoy people as they would be looking at their hourly wage and complaining while totally forgetting they are not paid all year round.

Pay for teaching is not great, despite what some begrudgers think, its probably the most reason that its unlikely I will end up teaching in a secondary school in the future. Its a very hard job, much harder than its given credit.

[dillo2k10]

As soon as I seen the thread title I just said out loud "again, would yous ever just **** off."

Teachers don't get 3 months holidays, they are unemployed for 3 months, they don't get paid for it. Teachers don't get ANY paid time off.

[BornToKill]

Originally Posted by roberttt

If no students fail exams couldn't the teachers be sent to Africa as part of Irish educational aid.

Why shouldn't African children get summer holidays too?

[Micky Dolenz]

A mate of mine is a teacher and he delights in telling us that the longest stretch he works is 6 weeks. God bless mid term.

More power to them.

I have more of a problem with our elected representives taking as many holidays.

[planetX]

there shouldn't be 3 months school holiday - end of story. It's a massive headache and expense for parents, times have changed and the school calender needs to change with them. Teachers unions are the main force standing in the way of this.

[Nothingbetter2d]

teachers do more than 22 hours a week.... more often than not they take work home with them such as correcting exams and preparing lessons for the week

[Tipp Man]

Originally Posted by nox001

People have to get it into their heads that a teachers pay is spread out over the year, but in reality they are really only getting paid for the hours they work, they could treble their pay during the year and not pay them for the summer which would probably annoy people as they would be looking at their hourly wage and complaining while totally forgetting they are not paid all year round.

Pay for teaching is not great, despite what some begrudgers think, its probably the most reason that its unlikely I will end up teaching in a secondary school in the future. Its a very hard job, much harder than its given credit.

you really are in cloud cuckoo land if you think teachers aren't well paid

A 35 year old married couple who are secondary teachers will have an income of about 114k BEFORE any A or B posts. They each teach for 22 hours a week for 35 weeks of the year and get paid 114k for this

Wake up for the love of god

[Tipp Man]

Originally Posted by dillo2k10

As soon as I seen the thread title I just said out loud "again, would yous ever just **** off."

Teachers don't get 3 months holidays, they are unemployed for 3 months, they don't get paid for it. Teachers don't get ANY paid time off.

What planet are you on??

They get paid every fortnight in June july and august - the same as every fortnight in september, october and november

[Nothingbetter2d]

Originally Posted by Tipp Man

What planet are you on??

They get paid every fortnight in June july and august - the same as every fortnight in september, october and november

they get paid monthly now