[Zonda999]

Yeah, blackberry appear doomed unless they can seriously pull something out of the bag. Propriety OS's are effectively gone, Blackberry are effectively the last manufacturer to still exclusively use they're own OS. They're what used to be unique form factor helped them keep them relevant for ages but they're certainly sinking fast now. And they won;t provide much of a wow factor

[jossul1179]

BlackBerries are still the best phones for getting stuff done. Not the best for gaming is that is a concern. But for business BlackBerry is best. Their is a reason way the President of the US uses BlackBerry. Apple board of directors use BlackBerry, the CEO of Google Eric Schmidt still uses them. Give the Bold 9900 a look.

[BobMc]

I've a Bold 9900 and if its sending email and texts the combination of a touch screen with a proper keyboard is great !, not so great on apps but I only use a few bookface, twitter, weather and its suits those perfectly uses little data for all of those too

[GarIT]

Originally Posted by BobMc

I've a Bold 9900 and if its sending email and texts the combination of a touch screen with a proper keyboard is great !, not so great on apps but I only use a few bookface, twitter, weather and its suits those perfectly uses little data for all of those too

So basically its a simple phone that does nothing worth mentioning and doesn't have the wow factor the OP was looking for. You probably should have mentioned that you can make calls on your balckberry and use the exclusive bbm and then you've listed all of its features. Cameras on BBs are usually terrible too.

[GarIT]

Originally Posted by jossul1179

BlackBerries are still the best phones for getting stuff done. Not the best for gaming is that is a concern. But for business BlackBerry is best. Their is a reason way the President of the US uses BlackBerry. Apple board of directors use BlackBerry, the CEO of Google Eric Schmidt still uses them. Give the Bold 9900 a look.

Do you have a source for any of this? Other than Obama I doub't they do and Obama probably doesn't know an awful lot about technology either.

All 3 of my email accounts, my calender, my text messages and msn messenger all synch to my lock screen and can be accessed with a swipe and one touch, how can you get things done better than that? The phone also integrates twitter, msn and Facebook into one interface. And if I choose to I can synch the contacts from my email accounts to my phone contacts and it will automtically match up names with, phone numbers, email accounts, twitter, facebook and msn accounts. You just can't beat that for efficency in getting things done. Is there one thing a Bb can do better?

[srsly78]

Originally Posted by Zonda999

Propriety OS's are effectively gone, Blackberry are effectively the last manufacturer to still exclusively use they're own OS.

You know that company called Apple? They use a proprietary OS called iOs, apparently it's quite popular.

[Dub XV]

Yeah something cutting edge is what I want. As I said I have a Lumia 800 so a 900 doesn't interest me or any other WP7.

The Blackberrys do look purely functional. I have a Nokia E72 now for that

Since I am going to throw a bit of money at it I just want something interesting. I could get a freebie if I just stick to the norm.

iPhone winning so far?

[jossul1179]

Originally Posted by GarIT

Do you have a source for any of this? Other than Obama I doub't they do and Obama probably doesn't know an awful lot about technology either.

All 3 of my email accounts, my calender, my text messages and msn messenger all synch to my lock screen and can be accessed with a swipe and one touch, how can you get things done better than that? The phone also integrates twitter, msn and Facebook into one interface. And if I choose to I can synch the contacts from my email accounts to my phone contacts and it will automtically match up names with, phone numbers, email accounts, twitter, facebook and msn accounts. You just can't beat that for efficency in getting things done. Is there one thing a Bb can do better?

Here are my source links
Apple Board of Directors
http://www.businessinsider.com/this-...onal-tv-2012-5

CEO of Google
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...e-eric-schmidt

Also everything above that you said BlackBerry has been doing for years and better.

[Zonda999]

Originally Posted by srsly78

You know that company called Apple? They use a proprietary OS called iOs, apparently it's quite popular.

Yeah yeah, other than iOS..

OP, call into a shop and try an iphone 4S and a good android like an s3 or a Note and see which one genuinely prefer

[GarIT]

Originally Posted by jossul1179

Here are my source links
Apple Board of Directors
http://www.businessinsider.com/this-...onal-tv-2012-5

CEO of Google
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...e-eric-schmidt

Also everything above that you said BlackBerry has been doing for years and better.

I'm actually amazed at that

That's a matter of opinion. I think WP7 is much batter even for basic functionality. I didn't know you could integrate your texts, Facebook chat and Windows live messenger into one app. Anyway, that's all BBs do, useful as they are they have no wow factor.

If I were you I'd wait for the SG3 or the next iPhone if you really want wow factor.

You won't get a note into your jeans pocket, and its more of a mini tablet with a call function than a phone.

[GarIT]

I've always seen android as a lower class of phone in a way compared to windows phone and iPhone. You can do way more on an Android, its not even half as secure as the iPhone, any app you want to make no matter how illegal it is you can make it. Anything that is bad gets taken out of the app store or marketplace. IOS just seems more secure, there aren't as many viruses as android. On the other side you can do anything you want with an android.

I've heard people complain before about the lack of SD card slots in the iPhone and Windows phone. But that's actually a really good feature from both, the time to access storage on both is much better.

My personal preference would be the iPhone over any Android.

[srsly78]

Fail, there are no viruses for android (a virus is a very specific kind of malware). Malware gets pulled from the market, the whole thing is propaganda basically.

Also, your sdcard point is rubbish. Modern android devices have the same fast internal memory, AND they have an sdcard slot. Early android devices were indeed gimped by limited internal memory but this is not a problem anymore.

Finally, iOs is not actually more secure. It is running native code, so one pointer exploit and the entire device is compromised (this is how the web-page jailbreak worked for example). Android uses a VM sandbox for each app, which is actually the more secure method.

[GarIT]

Originally Posted by srsly78

Fail, there are no viruses for android (a virus is a very specific kind of malware). Malware gets pulled from the market, the whole thing is propaganda basically.

Also, your sdcard point is rubbish. Modern android devices have the same fast internal memory, AND they have an sdcard slot. Early android devices were indeed gimped by limited internal memory but this is not a problem anymore.

Finally, iOs is not actually more secure. It is running native code, so one pointer exploit and the entire device is compromised (this is how the web-page jailbreak worked for example). Android uses a VM sandbox for each app, which is actually the more secure method.

Virus is just the most commonly used word. I hear it every day dealing with the general public so get used to using it. I actually usually correct people on that. I have restored android phones that have been bricked by malware. Android can install apps that are not in the marketplace unlike the others. I can link you YouTube videos if you want by malware on Android.

SD card read times are a slower than internal memory. You will have internal storage in an Android phone but extra storage you add, while expanding memory will slow the phone. When Microsoft was asked about why they don't allow SD cards in Windows phones they said it was because they didn't want the performance drop that comes with SD storage. If an app is on a SD card it will be a lot slower than an app on the phone's internal memory.

For that reason its not, but android apps can and have also affect the whole phone. I've never seen an iPhone that has been bricked by malware.

Just for the op, you have a current gen windows phone, you might not get any wow till the next gen of phones.

[srsly78]

Some windows phones DO support sdcards So you are clearly just waffling..... Noone with a modern android phone installs apps on sdcard, because it's crap as you have said. This was a big problem with the HTC Desire. Your info is way out of date for 2012.

Have never seen an android phone bricked by malware, this was more likely caused by the user messing around with custom roms etc. The "install from unknown sources" option in android is OFF by default. A user must manually enable this, just as they must manually install dodgy apps. Yes this is the downside to freedom. Google can remote wipe stuff from devices anyway.

Please stop spreading rubbish info.

[GarIT]

Originally Posted by srsly78

Some windows phones DO support sdcards So you are clearly just waffling..... Noone with a modern android phone installs apps on sdcard, because it's crap as you have said. This was a big problem with the HTC Desire. Your info is way out of date for 2012.

Have never seen an android phone bricked by malware, this was more likely caused by the user messing around with custom roms etc. The "install from unknown sources" option in android is OFF by default. A user must manually enable this, just as they must manually install dodgy apps. Yes this is the downside to freedom. Google can remote wipe stuff from devices anyway.

Please stop spreading rubbish info.

That must have changed, when the OS was released there were strict rules in place, and one of them was that no phone could have an SD card slot. It is still relevant as many Androids have little internal storage. I presume the more expansive ones have more space. There are hundreds of scams going around, none that I can think of on Android right now, but someone sometime must fall for them. I don't think Google can delete stuff that wasn't put on through the app store. You are just repeating what I said slightly differently to try to make yourself look intelligent.

There is no point in turning this into a thread where people try to show off how much they know.

Everything I have said is what I have learned working beside guys who spend all their time working on and repairing phones. There's nothing that I have said that I think it rubbish.