[MYOB]

Originally Posted by Max Power1

Whats the alternative for the m50 then? Red cow to blanchardstown>

The routes which existed before it was built. Phoenix Park or Lucan Village.

[Cookie_Monster]

Originally Posted by Victor

Graduated learning? First Dalkey Quarry then Mount Everest?

long continuous roads with little traffic and little in the way of lights or intersections. Perfect chance to cruise and not have to worry so much about clutch point and gears and give other aspects more attention and get used to the feeling of driving for 3 or so hours or more...

[Losty Dublin]

Originally Posted by Max Power1

Whats the alternative for the m50 then? Red cow to blanchardstown>

There is none as direct routes go. It was exempted as it's a orbital route for the city.

[BX 19]

Originally Posted by MYOB

I wouldn't consider doing a cross-country on detrunked N roads - likely to be very low traffic and fairly high quality - to be significantly harder if at all than the urban driving most learners start with.

You've never driven the old N4 then. A lot of people are still on it due to the motorway been entirely tolled

[ardmacha]

There are about 88,000 Km of non motorway roads in the Republic of Ireland. You should manage to find a way. Perhaps you'd post your route so the rest of us can use a different road that day.

[flazio]

The relevant councils seem to be marking the R routes that were the old N routes with yellow markings on route confirmations and junction signposts.

[Ted Mosby]

Originally Posted by arleitiss

Hey, just wondering is there a way to drive across Ireland other than through motorways? Also don't know what way is there, but is there a way to beach avoiding motorways?

P.S - not that I am scared of them, just on provisional license, can't really drive on those.

Try this. It has every single road in the country and it will encourage you to use your imagination in getting from A to B. With your qualified driver of course.

[Victor]

Originally Posted by MYOB

I wouldn't consider doing a cross-country on detrunked N roads - likely to be very low traffic

On a sunny bank holiday weekend?

[markpb]

Originally Posted by Victor

On a sunny bank holiday weekend?

It was you! Everyone, we've found the person to blame for the sun going away. Pitchforks at the ready folks, lets do this properly.

[Stark]

Originally Posted by Victor

On a sunny bank holiday weekend?

Probably even easier in that case as you'll be stuck behind Sunday drivers doing urban speeds for most of the journey.

[cazzak79]

When I go Dublin to Galway I would go the old main route sometimes ie go through enfield kinnegad, ballinasloe etc
Most of the old main road should still exist

[MYOB]

Originally Posted by BX 19

You've never driven the old N4 then. A lot of people are still on it due to the motorway been entirely tolled

Firstly, the M4 is not "entirely tolled". Kilcock to Kinnegad is. Leixlip to Kilcock and Kinnegad to Neads Bridge is not.

Secondly, most of the motorways in Ireland are not tolled, and of those that are, the M4 has the highest rate of avoidance.

Try the former M9 through Kildare, the former M8 or M1 almost anywhere, and so on.

Originally Posted by Victor

On a sunny bank holiday weekend?

See above. Yes, they'll still be very low traffic compared to an 'active' N road.

Originally Posted by cazzak79

When I go Dublin to Galway I would go the old main route sometimes ie go through enfield kinnegad, ballinasloe etc
Most of the old main road should still exist

All of it does. Legal requirement to have a non-motorway traffic route, e.g. for those on learners permits.