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22-05-2012, 03:12   #1
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It's over... 8x22 "Everybody Dies" [US] **Spoilers**

Hmmm, quite an underwhelming episode, I still don't get why he was in a burning house? I was happy to see Stacey back (even if she was only a figment of House's mind), she was far better for House than Cuddy ever was!

The ending was like a Disney film or something, riding off into the sunset.... It was a nice (and believable) twist at the end about House switching the dental records, but the riding off into the sunset with Wilson style ending didn't work for me, even though the only thing I wanted was for House to still be alive, it really was not in keeping with the general feel and theme of the show over the last 8 years to have an ending like that.

It's a pity, because the first 30 minutes were pretty boring, but a finale can always make up for that by getting the ending right, but this fell flat for me. I'm disappointed because I feel the show deserved a better ending. After a very average season it had really started to pick up in the last 3/4 episodes, it seemed to be peaking at just the right time but ultimately it fell at the final hurdle in my opinion.

Still though, what an excellent show that was for 8 years, I'm sad to see it end!
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I agree with where you are coming from.

Some of the final episodes of older seasons held a lot more tension i found. Although I thought is was a very good twist at the end and i somehow didnt see it coming despite all the clues!

Very sad to see the show end though! House was awesome!
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At first I was Then I was

It may not have been a great episode but I enjoyed it and the ending. When the body came out I was thinking he may have switched but the funeral had me thinking aww crap. So the twist was nice.

I liked that they ended in that way. I'd prefer if Wilson wasn't dying but it was a good feeling to see House and he go off together. I'm glad they didn't go the dark finale way.

Sad to see it go. It will always be one of the best shows ever for me.

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It wasn't an amazing episode or anything but I did enjoy the twist and it also ended in a way that I hoped it would.
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Imaginary Cameron is a manipulative b***h trying to convince him to die like that! And an obvious nod towards Sherlock Holmes at the end as well!

Having slept on it, as an objective viewer I still feel it was a dull episode, but as a fan of the character of House I'm actually happy that he got a positive ending. He's had enough misery, I know "You can't always get what you want" is a running theme on the show, but that doesn't mean "You can't EVER get what you want".

Still don't get why he was in that burning house though
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Oh dear. When the most interesting thing you notice are the wheels/alloys on Wilson's car you know it's dull one. AV Club have given it a D+ which is a quite harsh review. I'd probably give it a C+. David Shore tried, but wasn't great. Saying that, there were a few pleasant surprises - Andre Braugher being one.

Once the fire was made known (the glimpse of it under the floorboards) quite early on you knew he was not going to die. The hook of House being AWOL was interesting enough, but the philosophical witterings/getting everyone back to brain vomit life's wisdoms or whatever, in the abandoned craphole of a building, generally were not. Honestly, they could have stuck with a POTW and just made it a bit more bizarre or have House causing a bit more havoc in the hospital. Maybe business as usual, but all this overdosing on flashback stuff does not tend to make for entertaining viewing.

Once the body was taken from the building you knew House was OK, regardless of the coroner's report. There's no way the show was going to end without House being in the final scene. Tbf, I don't mind the dental records switching antics in order to be able to be there for Wilson. His funeral speech seemed to be the only bit of the episode that had some punch. At least the motorbike scene made me smile.

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... well there's another chapter of my life closed off. After 8 years House has come to an end. Fitting end to a brilliant series.

Unlike the majority of people here, I really enjoyed this episode and felt that it was an adequate ending to what has been an enjoyable 8 years.

Next it is on to Dexter's finale in September.
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Disappointing episode for me

The past cast interactions weren't great. I liked Cameron, as I think that's the mindset she would have. But I was expecting a lot more, considering how great the bus crash episode and Amber's appearance in House's head after Kutner's death were in previous episodes. This just didn't seem to have the same weight to it.

It would have been a much ballsier ending had House actually died in the fire. The whole him riding into the sunset with Wilson didn't do it for me at all.
It just doesn't suit the mood of the show over the previous seasons, as other people have said.

Had he died it would have been bittersweet, thinking that maybe he was finally learning to change, but never got a chance.
And the eulogies could have been about how he told the hard truths and taught everyone he met something important, even if he wasn't a nice person to be around.

It just really didn't sit right for me. The best moment for me was when he's in the house with the baby, and says it's all something that could have been, and there's no use pretending it's still possible. He just lies down to give up. That was a true House moment to me, that you can't just wish something into happening.

Sad to see it go out on a low note. But the fantastic earlier series more than make up for it, and I still consider it one of the best shows I've ever seen.
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It was not a bad finale- I just kept thinking i've seen episodes like this in other shows (being visited by dead/ex relatives)- kind of christmas carol- like. I would have preferred if stacey/cameron returning had been real-life interactions but was amused that both amber and Cameron were depicted by House as Devil like characters wanting him to die. anyway glad it ended in an upbeat manner for nearly all the characters (bar Wilson ofcourse)

I hear it was a two hour finale with behind the scenes footage and interviews in the first hour- did anyone watch that?
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but was amused that both amber and Cameron were depicted by House as Devil like characters wanting him to die.
I don't think it was like that really. Amber was trying to get him to think about why he's letting himself die. And I think with Cameron it just shows her honesty and empathy about his situation. I mean just as she said, that he shouldn't have to suffer anymore.
Nothing malicious about it.
It actually made me realise how much I missed Cameron! She was a great character
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I don't think it was like that really. Amber was trying to get him to think about why he's letting himself die. And I think with Cameron it just shows her honesty and empathy about his situation. I mean just as she said, that he shouldn't have to suffer anymore.
Nothing malicious about it.
It actually made me realise how much I missed Cameron! She was a great character
Yeah i take your point about Amber, but the idea that because Wilson was going to die it was a good idea for House to just give up and die was something I'd imagine a manipulative devil would say (in a devil and angel on the shoulder type scenario they had going).

I liked cameron and was glad she returned for the finale and got a happy ending. Considering how she left the show I was surprised the actress was good enough to return. The absence of Cuddy was a bit glaring though.
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Still don't get why he was in that burning house though
He was doing heroin with the other guy from the hospital in what was possible a drug den or just a place they wouldn't be bothered, the patient over-dosed or died from his illness?
Not shown what started the fire, the explosion was just Hollywood.

On the ending, remember that House is on FOX which is a network channel, so even in a show like House, there had to be a happy ending, so you dont alienate the mass audience.
While on cable channels like HBO, you can have any ending you want (ie: Sopranos)

My thoughs, it was ok but not great (7/10) and thats being generous. Nice to see everyone back. I loved Wilson speaking his mind at the funneral much like House would have done in the same situation. As the writers of Lost said, "Its all about the journey, not the finish"
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He was doing heroin with the other guy from the hospital in what was possible a drug den or just a place they wouldn't be bothered, the patient over-dosed or died from his illness?
About all I could think of was that maybe he had taken the heroin patient there to help him die. But, I dismissed that as soon as I thought of it.
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Disappointing episode for me

The past cast interactions weren't great. I liked Cameron, as I think that's the mindset she would have. But I was expecting a lot more, considering how great the bus crash episode and Amber's appearance in House's head after Kutner's death were in previous episodes. This just didn't seem to have the same weight to it.

It would have been a much ballsier ending had House actually died in the fire. The whole him riding into the sunset with Wilson didn't do it for me at all.
It just doesn't suit the mood of the show over the previous seasons, as other people have said.
And I was hoping to see more of Masters. It was hardly worth her while returning. Agree about House dying too. That was the only fitting ending.

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Had he died it would have been bittersweet, thinking that maybe he was finally learning to change, but never got a chance.
And the eulogies could have been about how he told the hard truths and taught everyone he met something important, even if he wasn't a nice person to be around.

It just really didn't sit right for me. The best moment for me was when he's in the house with the baby, and says it's all something that could have been, and there's no use pretending it's still possible. He just lies down to give up. That was a true House moment to me, that you can't just wish something into happening.
Well said Dr. Poca and that's exactly what I thought. When the dental records came back I really thought he was dead. I thought that suddenly an average episode had turned good because he had decided to live but finally a mess he made caught up with him and he couldn't avoid it and it killed him. That would have been so fitting really.

I wish I'd stopped watching just before the telephone rang during Wilson's euology. What followed was just stupid. None of it adds up. House is an addict and needs vicodin. As a working doctor he had the means to acquire it. As a dead guy he isn't going to get that chance. What's he going to do after Wilson dies? House is about the puzzles but as a dead guy he'll have enough trouble getting by let alone getting good puzzles to solve. In PPTH he had a lot of very sympathetic colleagues who knew what he was like and tolerated him because of his abilities. He'll get that nowhere else. I think it was a very poor ending really.
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