[AugustusMinimus]

Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

if your going for the A8 has to be quattro

but Id choose the bmw

On the basis that all Audis with at least a 3L engine have Quattro and on the basis that all A8s have a minimum 3L engine, then all A8s have Quattro as standard ?

[Eric Cartman]

Originally Posted by AugustusMinimus

On the basis that all Audis with at least a 3L engine have Quattro and on the basis that all A8s have a minimum 3L engine, then all A8s have Quattro as standard ?

your probably correct, Im not very well up on my audi's , but Id hate to think a car that size existed in FWD

[-Corkie-]

Originally Posted by mickdw

Id get an 03 onwards A8. Still very fresh looking. Miles ahead of early E65 bmw on looks and even though the A8 would be far from trouble free, Id bet it might give less headaches than an early 730d

Actually the 05 facelift model was a much more trouble free car. In any case expect big bills if something goes wrong and I mean that. The oil must be changed in the gearbox every 60k kms. I found this out the hard way..

[Padraig Mor]

Originally Posted by AugustusMinimus

On the basis that all Audis with at least a 3L engine have Quattro and on the basis that all A8s have a minimum 3L engine, then all A8s have Quattro as standard ?

Theres a 2.8 fwd A8 as well in that generation.

[reillypadraig]

Originally Posted by -Corkie-

Actually the 05 facelift model was a much more trouble free car. In any case expect big bills if something goes wrong and I mean that. The oil must be changed in the gearbox every 60k kms. I found this out the hard way..

Thanks for that, but I was looking at 05 and 06 730ds and there double the price of a 03 and 04, basically there's shag all around to choose from if im completely honest, and even more so a diesel a8, also iv never heard of a 2wheel drive a8 even the a6 when the engine size of the old model went above 2.5 it was Quattro. And iv only seen one pheaton in my whole life and it's the only one on donedeal.

But had anyone gone from only ever driving a manual car to an auto one? And whats it like in snow???

[RoverJames]

Originally Posted by -Corkie-

Actually the 05 facelift model was a much more trouble free car. In any case expect big bills if something goes wrong and I mean that. The oil must be changed in the gearbox every 60k kms. I found this out the hard way..

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=287565

[Matt Simis]

Originally Posted by reillypadraig

But had anyone gone from only ever driving a manual car to an auto one? And whats it like in snow???

Obviously nearly everyone that has an Auto at some point had a manual.. so anything you already read about Autos already answers your question as you have described 99% of Auto drivers (people that once drove a manual).

Quattros tend to be very good in the Snow, assuming the tyres have any grip...

PS: The 3.2l Phaeton on DD is FWD too. All other Phaetons are quattro (though branded 4Motion).

[RoverJames]

I found the ZT grand in snow, in snow mode it rolls off in 2nd I believe, the auto was handy for a drive across a soggy field lately too.

[mickdw]

Originally Posted by RoverJames

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=287565

What happened there then?

[Limerick man]

Not for discussion here lads, he'll be back!

[reillypadraig]

Originally Posted by Matt Simis

Obviously nearly everyone that has an Auto at some point had a manual.. so anything you already read about Autos already answers your question as you have described 99% of Auto drivers (people that once drove a manual).

Quattros tend to be very good in the Snow, assuming the tyres have any grip...

PS: The 3.2l Phaeton on DD is FWD too. All other Phaetons are quattro (though branded 4Motion).

So the Beemer will be a nightmare in the snow? Think that phaeton I seen on Dd is gone now. But thats the prob, bearly any around? Has everyone just gone to England to buy there a8s and 7series aswel? Because very few are for sale here, and only ones for sale seem to be all petrol

[-Corkie-]

Originally Posted by reillypadraig

So the Beemer will be a nightmare in the snow? Think that phaeton I seen on Dd is gone now. But thats the prob, bearly any around? Has everyone just gone to England to buy there a8s and 7series aswel? Because very few are for sale here, and only ones for sale seem to be all petrol

The beemer will be fine in the snow with winter tyres allthough quattro with winter tyres is better obviously. There is a good choice across the water but a lot of them have mega mileage.