[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Joko

This video aptly describes the Irish Military:



Pogs and fobbits.

And here we have an idiot that obviously never even seen an irish military uniform, so why such a stupid post.

[warwick]

Originally Posted by Joko

This video aptly describes the Irish Military:



Pogs and fobbits.

Your an angry little man Joko, whats wrong?
couldnt get into the Army?
What do you have against the Irish Defence Forces?

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by warwick

Your an angry little man Joko, whats wrong?
couldnt get into the Army?
What do you have against the Irish Defence Forces?

WTF does this vid have to do with the Irish Defence Forces? Other than the singer (who whilst pretty crap, seems to have a sort of Boston accent) may possibly be of Irish ancestry!?

[xflyer]

I think you're missing the point of the video, guys. Pogs and Fobbits are the modern equivalent of the REMFs. Generally derided by front line troops.

The implication being obvious for the Irish army. Which of course doesn't see combat very often.

So yes Joko is being insulting.

[Morpheus]

Whatever about the type of missions that we go on and the threat / danger level, the individual soldier isn't responsible for this situation so jogo can jogo on.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Morphéus

Whatever about the type of missions that we go on and the threat / danger level, the individual soldier isn't responsible for this situation so jogo can jogo on.

I second that, Morpheus.

[IRISHREDSTAR]

Originally Posted by warwick

Your an angry little man Joko, whats wrong?
couldnt get into the Army?
What do you have against the Irish Defence Forces?

Nobody has anything against the Irish army, that's why there are not needed they are paid a lot more money that the British or USA army who have to fight
It's just a government quango jobs for the boys, to dress up and pretend to be in a real army- this cost us over a billion a year to fund this silly dads army copy. at a time when we can't afford to save peoples live with proper healthcare
As Such The Irish army is the enemy of the people of Ireland. It should be scraped at once we only need a small number less than 100 for shows.

[source]

Originally Posted by IRISHREDSTAR

Nobody has anything against the Irish army, that's why there are not needed they are paid a lot more money that the British or USA army who have to fight
It's just a government quango jobs for the boys, to dress up and pretend to be in a real army- this cost us over a billion a year to fund this silly dads army copy. at a time when we can't afford to save peoples live with proper healthcare
As Such The Irish army is the enemy of the people of Ireland. It should be scraped at once we only need a small number less than 100 for shows.

I don't even know where to start with this ill informed piece of crap excuse of a post.

[Praetorian Saighdiuir]

Originally Posted by IRISHREDSTAR

Nobody has anything against the Irish army, that's why there are not needed they are paid a lot more money that the British or USA army who have to fight
It's just a government quango jobs for the boys, to dress up and pretend to be in a real army- this cost us over a billion a year to fund this silly dads army copy. at a time when we can't afford to save peoples live with proper healthcare
As Such The Irish army is the enemy of the people of Ireland. It should be scraped at once we only need a small number less than 100 for shows.

Just when I thought all the idiots were extinct.............this guy shows up

I would like a breakdown explanation of each of the sentances in your post. Including any online sources you have to back up your statments.

Otherwise, an ill informed opinion is an ill informed opinion which does not stand up on its own merits.

[IRISHREDSTAR]

Originally Posted by benwavner

Just when I thought all the idiots were extinct.............this guy shows up

I would like a breakdown explanation of each of the sentances in your post. Including any online sources you have to back up your statments.

Otherwise, an ill informed opinion is an ill informed opinion which does not stand up on its own merits.

O.k. first Ireland is not in any danger of attack and even if it was the Mickey mouse Irish dads army could do nothing, twice in the history of this state silly politicians forget this and asked the irish army to do something - to invade northern Ireland. And to blow up nelsons pillar. they could not do anything of the sort. Most of the “soldiers” living around this area seem to me to be far far too old and fat (orders for irish army uniforms must cause a great laugh for the suppliers) to be dressing up and playing at pretend armies. And most seem to spend far too much time drinking in the tax payers subsidized barracks pub.
In terms of pay lets start at the top we have two minsters running the army and their advisers top civil servants and a host of captain Mainwarings all getting paid more that the Secretary of Defense of the united states (€160000)
And at the very bottom a us private after four years gets 10,269.60 USD = 8,167.12 EUR
And for a Irish private after four years it’s €24449 but most of the lazy sod seem to be getting paid a lot more that this-the Irish gov website does not seem to give figures over four years or how many mainwarings of various rank and pay sales above private but the pay rises a lot higher and quicker in the Irish army that any of the real armies.
But that’s not all Irish soldiers get paid just like the usa army there is extra for fighting abroad or in the case of the Irish a nice holiday in the sun. Don’t like to travel in the Irish army you don’t have to millions of euro’s in bonus payments are made for all sorts of unnecessarys like border patrols and if you can manage to climb up onto a horse the tax payer with have a whip-round to send you all over the world show jumping in nice safe places like Monaco etc. But if your not in the army boys club on the pigs back don’t get sick and ask for a tablet that will say your life, we spent it all and silly things like dads army.

[xflyer]

And that's the problem. It's so frustrating. Dickwads like that have no clue. But because the Irish army isn't allowed to see combat in all the recent wars and hasn't been to war since the civil war. People think they can disparage the men and women who serve.

But this ignores the reality of Irishmen who have seen war.

There is no reason to suppose that if the Irish army found themselves in combat that they would not distinguish themselves.

I've said it before, sadly the only way the Irish army will get respect from the Irish public is for them to take serious casualties in some form of conflict.

It's a strange contradiction.

[IRISHREDSTAR]

Originally Posted by xflyer

And that's the problem. It's so frustrating. Dickwads like that have no clue. But because the Irish army isn't allowed to see combat in all the recent wars and hasn't been to war since the civil war. People think they can disparage the men and women who serve.

But this ignores the reality of Irishmen who have seen war.

There is no reason to suppose that if the Irish army found themselves in combat that they would not distinguish themselves.

I've said it before, sadly the only way the Irish army will get respect from the Irish public is for them to take serious casualties in some form of conflict.

It's a strange contradiction.

no the reason the Irish people think the Irish army is a joke is because it is a sick joke on us we have to pay silly men to dress up and play soldiers when there is no need as for Irishmen who fight in other armies of there own free choice good for them, lots of irish in the us army etc. As for the Irish army taking serious casualties please please no, we could not afford the the claims. can you hear me. The people of Ireland we respect the Irish army when It becomes FCA only and the men and Ladies in the paid dads army fe*k off and get a real job and start paying tax and not living off the work of others

[It wasn't me!]

Originally Posted by IRISHREDSTAR

no the reason the Irish people think the Irish army is a joke is because it is a sick joke on us we have to pay silly men to dress up and play soldiers when there is no need as for Irishmen who fight in other armies of there own free choice good for them, lots of irish in the us army etc. As for the Irish army taking serious casualties please please no, we could not afford the the claims. can you hear me. The people of Ireland we respect the Irish army when It becomes FCA only and the men and Ladies in the paid dads army fe*k off and get a real job and start paying tax and not living off the work of others

Um, you are aware that soldiers pay tax too, right? And you claim that the people of Ireland will respect the army when it becomes an organisation that was disbanded in (IIRC) 2005? Clearly, yours is an opinion that cuts to the heart of the matter alright.

[IRISHREDSTAR]

Originally Posted by It wasn't me!

Um, you are aware that soldiers pay tax too, right? And you claim that the people of Ireland will respect the army when it becomes an organisation that was disbanded in (IIRC) 2005? Clearly, yours is an opinion that cuts to the heart of the matter alright.

They are paid with tax they are not tax payers were would the money come from if not from real tax payers - the Deductions are a nonsense, they pretend to pay tax just like they pretend to be in a army. we could do the same with everybody on the dole give them a bit extra then "deduct" it leaving them we about the same as there on now and then call them tax payers. As for the fca an unpaid group could do a shows marching etc. Then We would have a extra billion euros that we don't need to cut from things we really do need.
Dads army must go

[IRISHREDSTAR]

Originally Posted by jbyrne10

And here we have an idiot that obviously never even seen an irish military uniform, so why such a stupid post.

It looks like this you stupid boy,It’s so like the Irish army you would think it’s a documentary, in fact they probably use it as a training video.