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09-05-2012, 13:05   #1
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Sukhui Superjet reported missing

Seems one may have gone missing in the Indonesia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18004097

it was on a demo flight .
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09-05-2012, 14:12   #2
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And here -

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-n...s-3103505.html
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09-05-2012, 14:27   #3
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http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5460828/

Good place to follow this, its not looking good at this point..
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Al Jazeera reporting a distress message was received.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-p...428596384.html

Terribly sad; death knell for Sukhoi and their Superjet?
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It its a bit early to be saying that, no one knows the circumstances at all
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09-05-2012, 16:27   #6
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Indeed. Look at the A320 crash in 88 at Mulhouse. Only the 9th built, and out at an airshow doing a fly past. Now one of the most successful planes ever..it may be the craft at fault, it could be many things..it's way too early to tell how it will impact the SuperJet program.

Thoughts go out to all on board.
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09-05-2012, 17:07   #7
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Somebody posted on here a year ago some photos of the first Sukhoi Superjet - it was obvious the workmanship was of a very poor standard and caused me to wonder what were the bits like that couldn't be seen ?
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Well, it was certified, here in Europe.. Plenty people, especially on Airliners.net are saying its probably CFIT and that the terrain response systems may have been turned off for that demo flight. Bear in mind that mountain they were going to fly around is over 7000 ft so the plane requesting to drop to 6000 ft before its disappearance, seems odd. I wouldn't be so quick to say the crash was caused by a technical issue with the plane..
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This is tragic! Although traditionally Russian built airliners were of poor standard, this Sukhoi Superjet seems quite promising, as evident by securing orders from some Western operators such as Interjet (Mexico)and Malev, but Malev is no longer with us., but no major European or U.S carriers, and Armavia
Also Boeing participated in assisting towards the development of the Sukhoi jet..

I hope it will not hinder sales of the airliner, it looks ok, but is not really that nice looking, especially the vertical tailfin and the way the front landing gear retracts backwards rather than the conventional (Western) forward method.

It seems Aeroflot wasn't happy with the first few aircraft it received, and thus, received more 'Advanced' series aircraft.

I wonder will Aeroflot get rid of them now and just acquire more A319/A320s?
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09-05-2012, 19:29   #10
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Also reported on Flightglobal and is being discussed on PPRuNe.

Quite sad as the Superjet does look very promising, but as previously mentioned re the A320 accident, it didn't seem to affect the A320 sales much in the long term!
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True but airbus already had two successful planes produced at that stage (A300 & A310). Sukhoi does no. i really hope this doesn't put prospectus buyers off, if its proven to be something other than a technical fault. Tomorrow we'll know all

This is tragic though, all the same
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It seems Aeroflot wasn't happy with the first few aircraft it received, and thus, received more 'Advanced' series aircraft.
It was my understanding that Aeroflot accepted the first batch of SJ-100's without their specific cabin config, the deal was that they would be returned and replaced once their precise config was available.
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This is tragic! Although traditionally Russian built airliners were of poor standard, this Sukhoi Superjet seems quite promising, as evident by securing orders from some Western operators such as Interjet (Mexico)and Malev, but Malev is no longer with us., but no major European or U.S carriers, and Armavia
Also Boeing participated in assisting towards the development of the Sukhoi jet..

I hope it will not hinder sales of the airliner, it looks ok, but is not really that nice looking, especially the vertical tailfin and the way the front landing gear retracts backwards rather than the conventional (Western) forward method.

It seems Aeroflot wasn't happy with the first few aircraft it received, and thus, received more 'Advanced' series aircraft.

I wonder will Aeroflot get rid of them now and just acquire more A319/A320s?
I just did a google image search and it looks like the front gear retracts forwards. I think it looks quite nice actually. I hope whatever has happened this aircraft won't affect future orders but I suppose only time will tell.
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It was my understanding that Aeroflot accepted the first batch of SJ-100's without their specific cabin config, the deal was that they would be returned and replaced once their precise config was available.
Ah ok, that was it..
Isn't there a business jet variant too.
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I just did a google image search and it looks like the front gear retracts forwards. I think it looks quite nice actually. I hope whatever has happened this aircraft won't affect future orders but I suppose only time will tell.
Ok, thats unusual for Russian built aircraft, so that idea may have stemmed from Boeing input into the project.

Actually, its not too bad, as I said earlier, i dont like the tailfin (vertical) but it looks a bit like a modern shorter Dassault mercure?

Anybody else think so?
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