[Galvasean]

Worth a read for anyone who has ever waded into a debate about secularism.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...315686865.html

[Daftendirekt]

Good article, though I kind of wish he hadn't thrown in the 'vindictive, jealous Sky God' line. Not the best way to get your point across when you're trying to educate people that secularism is essentially religion-neutral rather than anti-religion.

[JimiTime]

Ironically enough, I find the article goes more in the way of showing that its not a myth.

[Corkfeen]

I was wondering how long it would take someone to arrive who can't grasp the concept of secularism.

[JimiTime]

Originally Posted by Corkfeen

I was wondering how long it would take someone to arrive who can't grasp the concept of secularism.

Yeah, and then he gets an article published in the Irish Times. Go figure ey.

[Zillah]

Originally Posted by JimiTime

Yeah, and then he gets an article published in the Irish Times. Go figure ey.

Do you have a point of some sort or just more ambiguous contrariness? The article is quite succinct, it clarifies the difference between right and privilege - other than a single vaguely condescending line about a Sky God I can't imagine what the objection is.

[koth]

Originally Posted by JimiTime

Ironically enough, I find the article goes more in the way of showing that its not a myth.

Care to highlight what evil, militant anti-Christian secularism is contained in the article?

[MagicMarker]

Originally Posted by JimiTime

Ironically enough, I find the article goes more in the way of showing that its not a myth.

I'm shocked.

[Ellis Dee]

I enjoyed the article, which is just common sense. Interesting to see the reader comments and how soon the "they're just anti-Catholic" paranoia bounces to the surface.

Anyway, there's no need for anyone to attack the RCC in Ireland any longer. Cardinal Brady and the other facilitators of kiddy-fiddling are doing a fine job of wrecking it all on their own.

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd suspect that "the Lord works in mysterious ways".

[joseph brand]

Originally Posted by Ellis Dee

I enjoyed the article, which is just common sense. Interesting to see the reader comments and how soon the "they're just anti-Catholic" paranoia bounces to the surface.

Anyway, there's no need for anyone to attack the RCC in Ireland any longer. Cardinal Brady and the other facilitators of kiddy-fiddling are doing a fine job of wrecking it all on their own.

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd suspect that "the Lord works in mysterious ways".

Brady is doing exactly what Atheists want by hanging on and showing his arrogance towards the victims, their families and all Catholics nationwide.

Some of the excuses spewed by catholics are absolutely ridiculous, ie; "There was no phone available to him, so he couldn't ring the Gardaí". That really is insulting a person's intelligence.

The bishops, cardinals, archbishops, and the Vatican have shown nothing but contempt and arrogance towards the Irish people. Hopefully they will do more damage to their corporation.

[MrPudding]

Originally Posted by joseph brand

Brady is doing exactly what Atheists want by hanging on and showing his arrogance towards the victims, their families and all Catholics nationwide.

Some of the excuses spewed by catholics are absolutely ridiculous, ie; "There was no phone available to him, so he couldn't ring the Gardaí". That really is insulting a person's intelligence.

The bishops, cardinals, archbishops, and the Vatican have shown nothing but contempt and arrogance towards the Irish people. Hopefully they will do more damage to their corporation.

The phone one was good. I also like the "the IRA did not like informants" excuse.

MrP

[MrPudding]

Originally Posted by Zillah

Do you have a point of some sort or just more ambiguous contrariness? The article is quite succinct, it clarifies the difference between right and privilege - other than a single vaguely condescending line about a Sky God I can't imagine what the objection is.

It doesn't say "OMG god is awesome, so is Jesus and so is religion. Religion is the best thing ever, I don't understand how you people can't see that" therefore it is evil, militant anti christian secularism. Simples.

MrP

[Gbear]

Looking at the comments for the article, I can only assume the people missing the point (just the same as our friend number 3 did) didn't actually read the article. Either that or it reflects very poorly on their grasp of the english language.

[joseph brand]

Originally Posted by Gbear

Looking at the comments for the article, I can only assume the people missing the point (just the same as our friend number 3 did) didn't actually read the article. Either that or it reflects very poorly on their grasp of the english language.

Poe's Law.

[Paparazzo]

Originally Posted by Daftendirekt

Good article, though I kind of wish he hadn't thrown in the 'vindictive, jealous Sky God' line. Not the best way to get your point across when you're trying to educate people that secularism is essentially religion-neutral rather than anti-religion.

+1, and I really hate the phrase "sky god".