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17-05-2012, 11:53   #46
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Yes. A friend of mine was an American missionary to Bulgaria. He had only recently arrived in the country and had not learned Bulgarian. He was with a team one night that was holding an evangelistic service among ethnic Turks (Bulgarian citizens who speak Bulgarian but are Muslims). So many Muslims came forward to receive Christ that every other member of the team was praying with a new convert. My friend, seeing no-one was at the microphone, went to it and began to preach in perfect Bulgarian.
Do you have a link? If you can find one in Bulgarian I can get it translated.
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No, I don't think it is. If you read 1 Corinthians 12 then you will see that Paul refers to a gift of speaking in tongues and a gift of interpretation of tongues. That could not apply to what you have described.
St Paul talks of people speaking in the tongues of Angels- presumably Angels who are part of the Church and not ones fallen away from it, probably this is where interputation might have come in? Problem is that modern Charismatics make sounds like apostate angels.
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Do you have a link? If you can find one in Bulgarian I can get it translated.
A link to my friend?
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I understand speaking in tongues to be someone speaking in a foreign or ancient language which they do not and could not possible know. ie; A miracle.

Not some money grabbing American style lunatic shouting "Wala wala wala" to try stir up some wallet opening hysteria.
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St Paul talks of people speaking in the tongues of Angels- presumably Angels who are part of the Church and not ones fallen away from it, probably this is where interputation might have come in? Problem is that modern Charismatics make sounds like apostate angels.
I really don't know what the voices of demons sound like - but I'll defer to your evident experience in that area.
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A link to my friend?
If this happened it would have made the media, both local media and international Christian media. Ive googled and come up with no examples of such miracles being reported in Bulgaria- so your friend was obviously lying.

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I really don't know what the voices of demons sound like - but I'll defer to your evident experience in that area.
How demons sound like is well documented- exorcisms have been going on for centuries. No need for the attitude.
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A link to my friend?
Again obviously not to your friend but to documentation of this miracle being reported- do you think such an attitude is befitting of a moderator?
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A link to my friend?
Again obviously not to your friend but to documentation of this miracle being reported- do you think such an attitude is befitting of a moderator?
Documentation? Why on earth would he document something that happened in a church service? When you go to mass or to church there isn't some official record of everything that has to be documented and filed on line.

If you want to comment on a moderating action then feel free to do so via PM. But if I'm engaging with you as a poster then I suggest you drop the snotty rematks about what befits a moderator.
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Documentation? Why on earth would he document something that happened in a church service? When you go to mass or to church there isn't some official record of everything that has to be documented and filed on line.
To be fair PDN, if someone suddenly and miraculously starts speaking a foreign language, without any previous knowledge of it, then you'd expect someone to document it in some way.

That's a pretty big thing to suddenly happen.
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Documentation? Why on earth would he document something that happened in a church service? When you go to mass or to church there isn't some official record of everything that has to be documented and filed on line.
To be fair PDN, if someone suddenly and miraculously starts speaking a foreign language, without any previous knowledge of it, then you'd expect someone to document it in some way.

That's a pretty big thing to suddenly happen.
Why? The guy needed to speak Bulgarian to serve the Lord, not to prove a point to anyone.
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A link to my friend?
If this happened it would have made the media, both local media and international Christian media. Ive googled and come up with no examples of such miracles being reported in Bulgaria- so your friend was obviously lying.
I think that comment reveals much more about you than it does about my friend. I know him, and he does not strike me as a liar, nor do the two Bulgarian ministers I have spoken to who witnesses it.

Still. I guess its helpful to you to dismiss as lies anything that does not conform to your prejudices.
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Why? The guy needed to speak Bulgarian to serve the Lord, not to prove a point to anyone.
So, your friend, just magically learns a whole new language in a matter of seconds, and you totally accept this as fact?

But meanwhile, preachers have been killed for trying to serve the lord across the world, and couldn't do anything?

What logic is in this?

It's astounding, and if someone is going to make a claim like that, they should be able to back it up.

Can you at least give us a name so some attempt to verify this can be made?
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Why? The guy needed to speak Bulgarian to serve the Lord, not to prove a point to anyone.
So, your friend, just magically learns a whole new language in a matter of seconds, and you totally accept this as fact?

But meanwhile, preachers have been killed for trying to serve the lord across the world, and couldn't do anything?

What logic is in this?

It's astounding, and if someone is going to make a claim like that, they should be able to back it up.

Can you at least give us a name so some attempt to verify this can be made?
What do you mean "back up a claim"? A question was asked on an internet discussion forum & I answered the question.

I accept as fact the truthfulness of people whom I know personally and would trust with my life. Their accounts are consistent with other acts of the Holy Spirit that I have witnessed myself.

I see no need to give my friend's name to satisfy the curiosity of someone who posts trollish comments about magic in a Christianity Forum.
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I am absolutely not trolling, I am genuinely curious about this event.

I realise what the forum is for, however as a naturally inquisitive person I simply wanted to find out more about this event, as is perfectly natural of most human beings.

If a person wants to make a claim such as you did, it is only reasonable that others will question it and seek some form of proof of the event?
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