[fasttalkerchat]

Can we just conclude that the Airport Police have greater powers than security guards but lesser powers then Guardaí/Police? Whether or not they are actual Police depends on your definition of Police. Anyone disagree with that?

[Paulzx]

Originally Posted by fasttalkerchat

Anyone disagree with that?

Yes!!!!

[fasttalkerchat]

Originally Posted by Paulzx

Yes!!!!

You disagree? Why?

I'm not saying that they should have extra powers just that they have them (which was the point of this thread).

[Paulzx]

Originally Posted by fasttalkerchat

You disagree? Why?

).

Because this thread is one big disagreement and I'm not going to change that now..........

[fasttalkerchat]

Originally Posted by Paulzx

Because this thread is one big disagreement and I'm not going to change that now..........

I disagree with your take on this thread

[An Udaras]

Originally Posted by Eru

Do you just make random things up to try and prove they are police? Any person, I repeat ANY PERSON can pursue a suspect for a criminal offence. Nothing to do with being AP and it has absolutely nothing to do with losing sight. Where did you hear that, on Cops? There is only one occasion where losing sight plays a part in a pursuit and its for Gardai only.


Dear god in heaven are you for real? A person failed to stop and they will therefore be summonsed? Using what name or address? the one they refused to give when they ran away?


On that basis then Dublin Fire Brigade are not connected to 999 either? Because only National agencies are connected to it? Is there a national fire service even? Surely any emergency agency would be connected to 999 so they can be alerted to incidents within their area no? How does any fire service respond to fires then if 999 is only for national agencies? Perhaps they ask directory inquiries for the local emergency number as they surely do in the airport "Hello yes Im being mugged in the airport but the Gardai don't police here so can I have the airport polices emergency number please?"



Beautiful speech, just beautiful but then you forget this: "(2) Where an authorised officer, who is not a member of the Garda Síochána, arrests a person under this section, he shall, forthwith, deliver such person into the custody of a member of the Garda Síochána to be dealt with in accordance with law." http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1988/...int.html#sec33)
That rebukes all your waffle through and through. They arrest or detain = handing over to the POLICE. Theres only 2 recognised police forces in the Republic and neither is within the airport.

Look, if they are police with statutory powers or arrest, detention, investigation and prosecution then they wouldn't need to hand ALL prisoners over and you could, on the 5th time of asking, be able to produce a court case that involved direct prosecution.

In regards being answerable, I find it worrying that you believe any police force should be directly answerable to a private company. That should never be the case.

Oh and theres no such thing as a warrant card in the Republic of Ireland

Now, having sucked me in again, I really am leaving it at that. You can continue to bounce around the subject and misquote, misunderstand law and in some cases it seems, just make things up and if people want to believe you then so be it.

Look ERU take what you like from my posts but you clearly have sunken to a level where you are trying to insult me & my contributions. I have not lied nor bent any truths. You have some bigger issue with Airport Police that clearly goes beyond this debate good luck dealing with it, because every time I post something you imply I'm lieing and making things up.

[hjs007]

Originally Posted by Zambia

Shame on you 007.

And your point being ?

[fasttalkerchat]

Any more bitching and I'll report you all to the Internet Police.

[hjs007]

Originally Posted by An Udaras

Could you expand on this please HJS??

Yes a member of the Gardai are also Authorised Officers just the same as a member of the Airport Police Service but the DAA has over all day to day authority in relation to safety & security of an airport as set out in Section 23 of Air Navigation & Transport Act 1998 & the NCASP etc...

HJS did you just start this thread to discredit the members of the Airport Police Service and degrade them by childish remarks about the way people are dressed up??? I presume you mean uniformed.

You started a similar thread 3 year ago about the Airport Police.. Trolling?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055285539

And you point about previous thread as quoted above ?

[Zambia]

Originally Posted by hjs007

And your point being ?

Its sad.

[hjs007]

Originally Posted by Zambia

Its sad.

Its a general discussion ! Nobody asked you to contribute to it if you dont have anything productive to add.......

[kub]

Does anyone know what actually happened that day in Cork Airport when that guy stole a traffic corp 4x4 and drove it onto the apron.

Just someone mentioned to me that some Airport Security Officer would not let pursuing Gardai onto the apron.

Well not until a certain member instructed the clown in very clear way, enough said.
But that sums up Airport Security Guards.

[fasttalkerchat]

Originally Posted by kub

Just someone mentioned to me that some Airport Security Officer would not let pursuing Gardai onto the apron.

I find that hard to believe. Airport security do not replace a police service.

[troposphere]

So they got police inside checking passports and outside in the terminal and airport perimeter they use security guards for security? Obviously the people arriving on flights having gone through security screening are the bigger threat. DAA having control over security is like the US airlines having control over security screening prior to 9/11.

[Terrontress]

Originally Posted by kub

Does anyone know what actually happened that day in Cork Airport when that guy stole a traffic corp 4x4 and drove it onto the apron.

Just someone mentioned to me that some Airport Security Officer would not let pursuing Gardai onto the apron.

Well not until a certain member instructed the clown in very clear way, enough said.
But that sums up Airport Security Guards.

I don't think Gardai should be allowed on to a live airside environment just because they are Gardai.

There are specific protocols and there is training required to interact with aircraft. Do Gardai get these as a matter of course?

From what you describe it would appear that before the Airport Police officer stopped the Gardai, made a risk assessment and then allowed them to proceed.

I think we must have had a few people clamped by the Airport Police, hence the negative comments here. If I had been clamped by them I'd probably have a bash as well but the petty comments displayed here only make the posters sound ridiculous.