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28-04-2012, 20:09   #31
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Why would I want to learn Bs , if I want to learn something I'll ask a professional that knows what he's talking about.
Look who is replying to you. George Dalton and Nissan Doctor are professionals. Both highly respected mechanics. Now re-read your responses to what they are telling you.
If you keep being this rude to people who are trying to offer you advice instead of just telling you what you want to hear, than you wont get too many more replies to this thread IMO.
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Why would I want to learn Bs , if I want to learn something I'll ask a professional that knows what he's talking about.
At least two of the people that have posted in this thread are top mechanics and a number of us her can vouch for their work.
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If it breaks during the test it's your problem. You also do not pass the test. You are not the first person to suffer this, you won't be the last, but please also don't be the whingiest. It's unfortunate, it's sad, but there you go. Better thread might have been "How do I go about repairing a 9 yrs old VW that suffered a broken belt". If you ask Nissan Doctor really nicely, and apologise for being twattish to him, he might even advise you how to go about it. I doubt if you could find a better lad to advise you on that subject.

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Are you just arguing a point for the sake of it.Pull up your pants and stop talking through your a.ss ! Within the next few times well that's very technical isn't it , so can you show me where it's wrote that revving the engine to max is putting only a little stress on it! "Let's not forget" was this sumthing everyone learns at school.
Its called 4 years of collage and 12 years in total experience on the function and precise operation of an engine.

Accelerating on the road puts much more strain(load) on an engine then revving it while stationary.....this is not an opinion!

However, judging by your responses, the qualified and experienced mechanics who have given their educated opinion in this thread are wasting their time.

From now on, don't bother having your vehicle serviced or maintained at all, why waste your money when if it fails, it will be the garage/test centers/last owners/manufacturers or anyone's fault but your own.
I'm not asking for your or any other mechanics expert opinion on why it happened, or who's to blame for the belt braking, I have my own opinion on that,I was asking did it ever happen anyone ,and whos liable to fix it, I said the tester should have checked was it changed because that's what the rsa state they should have done. But a Lot of ppl like to give there opinion without getting any facts about the test procedure , just keep repeating its your responsibility over and over.
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If it breaks during the test it's your problem. You also do not pass the test. You are not the first person to suffer this, you won't be the last, but please also don't be the whingiest. It's unfortunate, it's sad, but there you go. Better thread might have been "How do I go about repairing a 9 yrs old VW that suffered a broken belt". If you ask Nissan Doctor really nicely, and apologise for being twattish to him, he might even advise you how to go about it. I doubt if you could find a better lad to advise you on that subject.
Another example of talking without really known the facts. I don't need advice on fixing hence why it's not in the title.
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I was asking did it ever happen anyone
Not to my own vehicle(I know the timing belt intervals), but it has happened in my garage while we were doing unrelated work on a car.


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and whos liable to fix it
You are. Which also answers the question that you didn't ask about who is to blame.





There is a whiff of troll starting to appear around here TBH.

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Why would I want to learn Bs , if I want to learn something I'll ask a professional that knows what he's talking about.
At least two of the people that have posted in this thread are top mechanics and a number of us her can vouch for their work.
I appreciate that but there still missing the point ! The test was not carried out according to the set rules !
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No, but it has happened in my garage while we were doing unrelated work on a car.


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and whos liable to fix it
You are.
It's not a car Lgv so a Doe test, and are you up to date with the latest rules set down by the rsa for the testers ?
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Smell of troll ? I taught I told that fella to pull up his pants !
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Hang on, why would anyone or even a tester want to fully rev the vehicle for said amount of time when the vehicle would never in real life ever be reved to the full for said time ?. No-one will ever drive the vehicle with the accelerator all the way down to the floor.

I'm no techy with mechanics but it seems a dumb thing to do to test the vehicle imo. I'd have the tester pay for the damage end of story.
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It's not a car Lgv so a Doe test, and are you up to date with the latest rules set down by the rsa for the testers ?

Look we are wasting our time here.

The belt did not snap because the tester didn't ask a question, it snapped because the vehicle wasn't maintained properly.....meaning, that without question, the test center is not responsible, the same thing applies with the NCT test.

You have your own opinions though(educated and fact based, no doubt) so best of luck.
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Hang on, why would anyone or even a tester want to fully rev the vehicle for said amount of time when the vehicle would never in real life ever be reved to the full for said time ?. No-one will ever drive the vehicle with the accelerator all the way down to the floor.

I'm no techy with mechanics but it seems a dumb thing to do to test the vehicle imo. I'd have the tester pay for the damage end of story.
its part of the test but before you start the van the tester is ment to insure the belt has being changed according to the manufacturers set rules ,if not you dont continue with the test .
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Hang on, why would anyone or even a tester want to fully rev the vehicle for said amount of time when the vehicle would never in real life ever be reved to the full for said time ?. No-one will ever drive the vehicle with the accelerator all the way down to the floor.

I'm no techy with mechanics but it seems a dumb thing to do to test the vehicle imo. I'd have the tester pay for the damage end of story.

The smoke test is done over the full rev/power range that the vehicle is capable of. The test is based on what the vehicle is capable of, not how the driver actually uses it.

I drive a diesel and have no issue using high revs and running up to the rev limiter when needed for overtaking or whatever....nor would I be concerned about anything failing due to this....in fact, considering that high amounts of build up are the cause of many diesel running problems, using the full rev range every so often to clear it out fully could be deemed as good for the engine..

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its part of the test but before you start the van the tester is ment to insure the belt has being changed according to the manufacturers set rules ,if not you dont continue with the test .

Before you bring the van to be tested, you are supposed to ensure that the vehicle has been maintained properly and is capable of being tested, and if not, it shouldn't have even been presented to the tester in the first place.

As I think someone asked already, when was the belt last changed?
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I agree as it only takes a couple of seconds for the tester to ask this question and yes I think it's imperative that the tester asks when the timing belt was last changed. What sort of idiot would test a vehicle as flooring the accelerator for a period of time knowing there could be a chance of the belt snapping. stupid test and should be abolished.
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