[Nissan doctor]

Its unfortunate that it happened during the test but unfortunatly the belt breaking was 100% due to it being overdue or incorrectly fitted/tensioned etc.

Revving a healthy , fully warmed up diesel to its factory set rev limitter will have no ill effects.

[Dg_]

Originally Posted by Nissan doctor

Its unfortunate that it happened during the test but unfortunatly the belt breaking was 100% due to it being overdue or incorrectly fitted/tensioned etc.

Revving a healthy , fully warmed up diesel to its factory set rev limitter will have no ill effects.

I agree with what your saying it's correct. I said limiter earlier but the van has no limiter the last couple of lines on the Rev clock are red for a reason ! It still comes back to the tester not carrying out the test in accordance with the rules set down by the Rsa in the Lgv Testers Manual.

[Nissan doctor]

Originally Posted by Dg_

I agree with what your saying it's correct. I said limiter earlier but the van has no limiter the last couple of lines on the Rev clock are red for a reason ! It still comes back to the tester not carrying out the test in accordance with the rules set down by the Rsa in the Lgv Testers Manual.

What kind of van is it? It must be 20odd+ years old if it hasn't got a rev limiter.

[Dg_]

Originally Posted by Nissan doctor

What kind of van is it? It must be 20odd+ years old if it hasn't got a rev limiter.

It's a 9 yr old volkswagen , limiter to me would be stopping it redlining while standing still !

[George Dalton]

I'm with Nissan Doctor on this one, it is 100% your responsibility, not the tester.

The factor rev limit is a safe limit for the engine assuming everything is in good working order. Obviously this was not the case here.

When was the belt last changed?

[Dg_]

Originally Posted by George Dalton

I'm with Nissan Doctor on this one, it is 100% your responsibility, not the tester.

The factor rev limit is a safe limit for the engine assuming everything is in good working order. Obviously this was not the case here.

When was the belt last changed?

So are you saying its ok that he continued the test even when he saw no evidence of when the belt was last changed, It is part of the test to look or ask for info on when the belt was last changed if it cant be verified test must be stopped.

[George Dalton]

Where are you getting that info from? It is crazy to expect the tester to verify a belt change within a specified interval on each and every van that they test. They wouldn't even have all the technical information that they need to verify that since the intervals vary from engine to engine.

It's up to you to ensure that the vehicle is fit to be tested. End of story.

[slimjimmc]

Ultimately it's your responsibility to ensure the van was fit for testing. You don't have to be a mechanic so if you're not qualified to make that assessment then you should hire the services of someone who is. Nobody likes to see their engine revved hard to the limiter but the engine and it's components are designed for the stress plus a bit. Imo you'll have a hard time convincing the test centre that they're responsible for their premature failure.

[trixyben]

The TB is an item which is the owners responsibility to have changed correctly within the said milage or age of the car, if it has been changed within its due dates, not only the belt but pulleys tensioners etc and all done correctly it will be well fit to be put under strain from hard driving imo...

If it was very near the due date to be changed then im afraid thats down to you, if you say it has been changed recently and done properly then its the garage who done the repair you should be taking this up with not the testers as this is something they dont even look at or take into account on the test

[Dg_]

Originally Posted by George Dalton

Where are you getting that info from? It is crazy to expect the tester to verify a belt change within a specified interval on each and every van that they test. They wouldn't even have all the technical information that they need to verify that since the intervals vary from engine to engine.

It's up to you to ensure that the vehicle is fit to be tested. End of story.

What's crazy about asking the owner when the belt was changed last I don't expect him to have to read my mind. I know were in Ireland but they have computers in these places now and since its a DOE centre holding a lot of technical info on a range of different vehicles is usually what it's there for ,where do you think he gets all the limits for doing the test emissions etc do you expect every vehicle to be the same ? I brought it to get tracked and the fella typed in the reg and low and behold it brought up all the info the computer needed tolerances etc. Why didn't you do some research on it before preaching to me about What you think should be done and not done. End of story.

[Nissan doctor]

Originally Posted by Dg_

It's a 9 yr old volkswagen , limiter to me would be stopping it redlining while standing still !

The red area of the rev dial indicates the high end of the rev range, there is an electronic limiter which will prevent the engine revving beyond its factory tolerances.

Everyone likes to blame someone else when something breaks on their car but the simple fact is its your responsibility, no-one else's, to ensure that your vehicle is fit for testing.

Lets not forget, as well, that revving the engine at standstill puts very little strain on the engine and if the belt broke while doing this, then it would have broken within the next few times you drove the van anyway.

[Dg_]

Originally Posted by Nissan doctor

The red area of the rev dial indicates the high end of the rev range, there is an electronic limiter which will prevent the engine revving beyond its factory tolerances.

Everyone likes to blame someone else when something breaks on their car but the simple fact is its your responsibility, no-one else's, to ensure that your vehicle is fit for testing.

Lets not forget, as well, that revving the engine at standstill puts very little strain on the engine and if the belt broke while doing this, then it would have broken within the next few times you drove the van anyway.

Are you just arguing a point for the sake of it.Pull up your pants and stop talking through your a.ss ! Within the next few times well that's very technical isn't it , so can you show me where it's wrote that revving the engine to max is putting only a little stress on it! "Let's not forget" was this sumthing everyone learns at school.

[Jimdagym]

Originally Posted by Dg_

was this sumthing everyone learns at school.

You are not really making any effort to learn it now.

[Dg_]

Originally Posted by Jimdagym

You are not really making any effort to learn it now.

Why would I want to learn Bs , if I want to learn something I'll ask a professional that knows what he's talking about.

[Nissan doctor]

Originally Posted by Dg_

Are you just arguing a point for the sake of it.Pull up your pants and stop talking through your a.ss ! Within the next few times well that's very technical isn't it , so can you show me where it's wrote that revving the engine to max is putting only a little stress on it! "Let's not forget" was this sumthing everyone learns at school.

Its called 4 years of collage, numerous further training classes and 12 years in total experience on the function and precise operation of an engine.

Accelerating on the road puts much more strain(load) on an engine then revving it while stationary.....this is not an opinion!

However, judging by your responses, the qualified and experienced mechanics who have given their educated opinion in this thread are wasting their time.

From now on, don't bother having your vehicle serviced or maintained at all, why waste your money when if it fails, it will be the garage/test centers/last owners/manufacturers or anyone's fault but your own.