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ScubaDave · 27-04-2012, 22:03

Howdy Folks!

Have eyed up a car and thinking of placing a deposit tomorrow morning. Its a 2009 Opel Insignia SE spec. 48,000km, 2.0lt diesel, 130bhp. €17,000.

I know Opel had a bad name but the Insignia seems to have an alright reputation. Anyone have experience with them? What do ye think?

Pottler · 27-04-2012, 22:17

Nice car. Nice to drive as well - mate crashed his Audi A8 and got an Insignia 2lt diesel as a loaner and we had a good spin around in it. Verry nice. Seems well screwed together too. Not as nice as the A8, but nice.

ScubaDave · 27-04-2012, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Pottler

Nice car. Nice to drive as well - mate crashed his Audi A8 and got an Insignia 2lt diesel as a loaner and we had a good spin around in it. Verry nice. Seems well screwed together too. Not as nice as the A8, but nice.

Yeah, cheap mans luxury car! Thats why i like it!

veetwin · 27-04-2012, 23:02

Drove a 160bhp version a few weeks ago with all the bells and whistles like leather heated seats etc. Have to say was seriously impressed. Really well put together and refined. 18 " alloys look the part also. 09 version should have lost plenty of depreciation. The one I drive was 2010 and cost just over €20k. A new one would have been over €40k with all the options.

heathersonline · 27-04-2012, 23:51

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Originally Posted by ScubaDave

Howdy Folks!

Have eyed up a car and thinking of placing a deposit tomorrow morning. Its a 2009 Opel Insignia SE spec. 48,000km, 2.0lt diesel, 130bhp. €17,000.

I know Opel had a bad name but the Insignia seems to have an alright reputation. Anyone have experience with them? What do ye think?

You should be well able to pick up the top spec SRI 160bhp for that kinda money or less if you go private. Defo worth it IMO

captainspeed · 28-04-2012, 00:36

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Originally Posted by ScubaDave

Howdy Folks!

Have eyed up a car and thinking of placing a deposit tomorrow morning. Its a 2009 Opel Insignia SE spec. 48,000km, 2.0lt diesel, 130bhp. €17,000.

I know Opel had a bad name but the Insignia seems to have an alright reputation. Anyone have experience with them? What do ye think?

I don't know where you got that idea from to be honest

? The only really bad one is the 1.0 three cylinder Corsa to be honest! I wouldn't be mad about Opels but generally they're reliable machines. Although some early Insignias gave a lot of trouble, so make sure you buy something with a warranty, but really the problems with the Insignias should be sorted out by now.

Compton · 28-04-2012, 00:41

17k is too much I think tbh, is it from a main dealer?

Compton · 28-04-2012, 00:42

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3248700

bazz26 · 28-04-2012, 01:36

€17k seems expensive for a 3 year old Insignia. This one has higher mileage but still not excessive given the year, for €2k less and it's the more powerful 160bhp version:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index...13346607751080

BTW I'd be wary of a low mileage modern diesel, you could be facing dpf problems if the previous owner only used it for short journeys.

Damien360 · 28-04-2012, 11:09

I have one for work and it's a very nice place to be. Comfy, handling not as good as a mondeo but still ok. SE spec in mine is very good also. Cruise, better seats than base model, USB interface for ipod, climate, DAB radio, tyre pressure sensors. 30,000km service interval. No faults so far on any in our fleet. Oldest is 11 reg though but most do 50,000km per year in the fleet with no faults reported. Most are 130bhp but a few new 12 reg 160bhp also.

One thing, it is geared more like a petrol than diesel and you need to work the gears more than normal for a diesel.

tom petty · 28-04-2012, 11:30

On 3-5-12 the BBC Watchdog programme includes an investigation into why so many Insignias are " spontaniously combusting " .
Maybe worth a look prior to buying .....
Have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G7AEK2eBHU

bazz26 · 28-04-2012, 13:51

The Ecoflex models introduced in 2010 for lower tax bands are supposed to feel alot less powerful than the non Ecoflex models of 2009. This was apparently addressed in late 2011.

The engine is a modernised version of the old 1.9 Fiat Multi-Jet unit but I have also heard that fuel economy is not great from them compared to others in the class.

Drummerboy08 · 28-04-2012, 14:16

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Originally Posted by heathersonline

You should be well able to pick up the top spec SRI 160bhp for that kinda money or less if you go private. Defo worth it IMO

SRi isn't the top spec, it's pretty much on the same par as the SE. Elite is the top spec.

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Originally Posted by bazz26

The Ecoflex models introduced in 2010 for lower tax bands are supposed to feel alot less powerful than the non Ecoflex models of 2009. This was apparently addressed in late 2011.

The engine is a modernised version of the old 1.9 Fiat Multi-Jet unit but I have also heard that fuel economy is not great from them compared to others in the class.

It's not that the Ecoflex has any less power, Opel fiddled with the gearing to reduce CO2 and it really made a bollix of the car. First and second gear are pretty much useless as a result.

Fuel consumtion isn't too bad, should see up to 1000km from a tank in the manual, around 800km in the auto.

Believe it or not, the 130 is acually nicer to drive than the 160 Ecoflex.

Damien360 · 28-04-2012, 15:17

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Originally Posted by Drummerboy08

Believe it or not, the 130 is acually nicer to drive than the 160 Ecoflex.

I agree. I was given the 160bhp (12 reg with built in satnav) for the day while my 130 was being serviced. The gearing is odd but I still thought the 160 had more punch to it. The clutch of the 160 is very light, bite a bit higher up, and I could not feel the road at all. Felt a bit like driving a shopping trolley. The satnav on it though is very good. Much better than my garmin.

Drummerboy08 · 28-04-2012, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Damien360

I agree. I was given the 160bhp (12 reg with built in satnav) for the day while my 130 was being serviced. The gearing is odd but I still thought the 160 had more punch to it. The clutch of the 160 is very light, bite a bit higher up, and I could not feel the road at all. Felt a bit like driving a shopping trolley. The satnav on it though is very good. Much better than my garmin.

Thats a different car again, the newer cars with s/s (which sounds like the one you were given) are nicer to drive compared to the older Ecoflex.

If i had a choice I'd be looking at a 2009/2010 SRi, which never got Ecoflex but was 160bhp. Best of the bunch IMO.

27-04-2012, 22:03	#1
ScubaDave Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: A land far far away! Posts: 398 Adverts \| Friends	Opel Insignia Howdy Folks! Have eyed up a car and thinking of placing a deposit tomorrow morning. Its a 2009 Opel Insignia SE spec. 48,000km, 2.0lt diesel, 130bhp. €17,000. I know Opel had a bad name but the Insignia seems to have an alright reputation. Anyone have experience with them? What do ye think?

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27-04-2012, 22:17	#2
Pottler Closed Account Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,321 Adverts \| Friends	Nice car. Nice to drive as well - mate crashed his Audi A8 and got an Insignia 2lt diesel as a loaner and we had a good spin around in it. Verry nice. Seems well screwed together too. Not as nice as the A8, but nice.

27-04-2012, 23:02	#4
veetwin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,005 Adverts \| Friends	Drove a 160bhp version a few weeks ago with all the bells and whistles like leather heated seats etc. Have to say was seriously impressed. Really well put together and refined. 18 " alloys look the part also. 09 version should have lost plenty of depreciation. The one I drive was 2010 and cost just over €20k. A new one would have been over €40k with all the options.

28-04-2012, 00:41	#7
Compton Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 3,062 Adverts \| Friends	17k is too much I think tbh, is it from a main dealer?

28-04-2012, 00:42	#8
Compton Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 3,062 Adverts \| Friends	http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3248700

28-04-2012, 01:36	#9
bazz26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Co. Limerick Posts: 20,077 Adverts \| Friends	€17k seems expensive for a 3 year old Insignia. This one has higher mileage but still not excessive given the year, for €2k less and it's the more powerful 160bhp version: http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index...13346607751080 BTW I'd be wary of a low mileage modern diesel, you could be facing dpf problems if the previous owner only used it for short journeys.

28-04-2012, 11:09	#10
Damien360 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Newbridge Posts: 1,282 Adverts \| Friends	I have one for work and it's a very nice place to be. Comfy, handling not as good as a mondeo but still ok. SE spec in mine is very good also. Cruise, better seats than base model, USB interface for ipod, climate, DAB radio, tyre pressure sensors. 30,000km service interval. No faults so far on any in our fleet. Oldest is 11 reg though but most do 50,000km per year in the fleet with no faults reported. Most are 130bhp but a few new 12 reg 160bhp also. One thing, it is geared more like a petrol than diesel and you need to work the gears more than normal for a diesel.

28-04-2012, 11:30	#11
tom petty Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: County Kerry Posts: 12 Adverts \| Friends	On 3-5-12 the BBC Watchdog programme includes an investigation into why so many Insignias are " spontaniously combusting " . Maybe worth a look prior to buying ..... Have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G7AEK2eBHU

28-04-2012, 13:51	#12
bazz26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Co. Limerick Posts: 20,077 Adverts \| Friends	The Ecoflex models introduced in 2010 for lower tax bands are supposed to feel alot less powerful than the non Ecoflex models of 2009. This was apparently addressed in late 2011. The engine is a modernised version of the old 1.9 Fiat Multi-Jet unit but I have also heard that fuel economy is not great from them compared to others in the class.