[rabbit assassin]

unfortunately yes there is hunters with legal licenses and permissions to hunt deer that shoot unnecessary numbers I agree completely its not only the poachers to blame. I think everyone knows of an individual or two or maybe even 3 that always shoots too many pheasant, duck, rabbits, no matter what the quarry is there is always someone that has to be greedy and ruin it for everyone else. Unfortunately with deer it has a bigger effect... Your club can order a few hundred pheasant every year , same with duck.... Rabbits fair enough can be scarce but can always be found if you look hard enough... But deer are not easily replaced. There is always a minority that have to go over the top and this has a big effect on us genuine hunters out there to feed ourselves and family and to do a past time which we love dearly... not to make a living from

[graham h]

Originally Posted by Grizzly 45

Thats the major difference between a poacher and an il, or in this case legal game harvester!!!!.Thats a flippin disgrace that a so called "stalker" is carrying on like that!!
He is shooting for profit and not for his own needs.IMO he is NO better than a poacher !!!At least a genuine poacher wouldnt destroy a resource that would keep him and his family fed year in year out.
A DISGRACE to the name of stalker!!

u are right its a disgrace but in 1 of ur posts u are saying u sell 2 gamedealers, so u must be shooting a few urself, and if ur frezzer is full and u have no room 4 them so y shoot them

[rabbit assassin]

in fairness I have to agree that if you have too much deer to be consuming yourself or by family or friends then you shouldnt keep shooting and selling to game dealers. Whatever about selling rabbit or pigeon and small game, I definitely think its un-sporting to be shooting deer just to sell. Greed of the highest form.

[Tackleberry.]

I blame the game dealer, at the start of this year the game dealer rang all the lads I know that shoot deer about 10 lads and offered a price per kg, now if he rang us he surely rang many more.
I know one person also who's lamps season to season and had 90 something deer shot coming up to last Xmas all for money, sad so say also that this is the first year I've considered selling my rifle all because I could not be arsed driving an hour to try and get a shot on land I know has been lamped probley that night.
I shot one nice year old red stag this year and he was lovely made many a meal in many homes.
Game dealers should be held more responsible for game they handle as should stalkers but dealers are no better than poachers, tis all a money racket.

[EastTyrone]

a poosible solution could be that at the start of every season hunters are issued with tags, when you shoot a deer you tage the ear,just like a cow,and if you use all your tags you apply to the deer societies for more tags?

[sikastag]

Originally Posted by EastTyrone

a poosible solution could be that at the start of every season hunters are issued with tags, when you shoot a deer you tage the ear,just like a cow,and if you use all your tags you apply to the deer societies for more tags?

Keep the deer societies out of the tagging malarkey.
Plenty of licenced hunters and people affiliated with certain societies lining their pockets from deer.

Gamedealers also shoot deer themselves.......

I just hope the arse falls out of the venison market.........

[meathstevie]

Originally Posted by EastTyrone

a poosible solution could be that at the start of every season hunters are issued with tags, when you shoot a deer you tage the ear,just like a cow,and if you use all your tags you apply to the deer societies for more tags?

Please leave private organisations out of the equasion because ultimately they're in it for only one reason; their own interest. If a tagging system ever is implemented it should be ran by the NPWS or another state agency but definitely not by private organisations.

[El Spearo]

all i know is for all the deer signs on the motorway, not once in four years have i seen one!

[groundskeeper willie]

Originally Posted by meathstevie

Please leave private organisations out of the equasion because ultimately they're in it for only one reason; their own interest. If a tagging system ever is implemented it should be ran by the NPWS or another state agency but definitely not by private organisations.

100% agree. no time for any of these societies. tagging system would be great couldnt see it happening here though.

[Grizzly 45]

Originally Posted by graham h

u are right its a disgrace but in 1 of ur posts u are saying u sell 2 gamedealers, so u must be shooting a few urself, and if ur frezzer is full and u have no room 4 them so y shoot them

Of two deer I have shot sofar in Ireland..I have sold ONE deer [Red ] to a dealer this last season!If you look back I posted that in Sept last as everyone was wondering about the new paperwork required that came out last year in selling carcasses.
TBH I doubt I'd ever sell another one here again either as the requirements of game dealers of shooting them in the head or neck shots is repugnent to me and I have more respect of my quarry than to be using it for trick shots!!
So please dont try and put words in my mouth or ASSume you know what my motives are!!

BTW FAR be me to play punctation police here.
But these fellows . , ? ' ! " do have a purpose in writing.
As well as that I belive "Text speak" if frowned upon here when posting?

[graham h]

punctation police text speak is frowned upon here when posting BTW
my punctation and spelling might not be good but i know shooting RED DEER and selling them is wrong

[graham h]

Originally Posted by Grizzly 45

Of two deer I have shot sofar in Ireland..I have sold ONE deer [Red ] to a dealer this last season!If you look back I posted that in Sept last as everyone was wondering about the new paperwork required that came out last year in selling carcasses.
TBH I doubt I'd ever sell another one here again either as the requirements of game dealers of shooting them in the head or neck shots is repugnent to me and I have more respect of my quarry than to be using it for trick shots!!
So please dont try and put words in my mouth or ASSume you know what my motives are!!

BTW FAR be me to play punctation police here.
But these fellows . , ? ' ! " do have a purpose in writing.
As well as that I belive "Text speak" if frowned upon here when posting?

so out of the deer u shoot in ireland u are selling 50% of them

[Vegeta]

graham h, please don't use text speak.

Rule 9 of the forum is to respect forum etiquette

[Grizzly 45]

Originally Posted by graham h

so out of the deer u shoot in ireland u are selling 50% of them

At least I'm not market hunting 25 a month like your friend!!! at6.25 animals a week
Lets do the maths..Season opens Sept closes Dec four months for stags.16 weeks Adding on the hind and calf season as well Nov to Feb 16 weeks 32 weeks grand total of a season. 100 animals a month..If I was NPWS I'd REALLY be intending to have a chat with this fellah once his deer returns are in!!!

And whats so wrong with selling Red deer???As if I was the only person doing such.How many did that chacter shoot and sell???
Take the railway sleeper out of your eye before attending to the dust mote in mine!!

[graham h]

Originally Posted by Grizzly 45

At least I'm not market hunting 25 a month like your friend!!! at6.25 animals a week
Lets do the maths..Season opens Sept closes Dec four months for stags.16 weeks Adding on the hind and calf season as well Nov to Feb 16 weeks 32 weeks grand total of a season. 100 animals a month..If I was NPWS I'd REALLY be intending to have a chat with this fellah once his deer returns are in!!!

And whats so wrong with selling Red deer???As if I was the only person doing such.How many did that chacter shoot and sell???
Take the railway sleeper out of your eye before attending to the dust mote in mine!!

1. he is not my friend and never will be the way he is carring on in regaruds of shooting deer
2.i think shooting red deer for profit is wrong there is few enough of them
3.i hope npws do catch up whit him