[marienbad]

Originally Posted by ShooterSF

No this is about setting a principle. One where the church are not above state laws. This law isn't out to target them, they have just decided to kick up a fuss about it and they need putting in their place before we get onto education. How can we hope for a secular state when a church openly flaunts our laws?

But the principle has been set, Alan Shatter refused to give them an exemption (a) in the text of the law and (b) in answer to a direct question asking if they were immune and he said no.

Now unless you want a specific law enacted against the confessional seal I don't know how much more he can do.

[Penn]

Anyone else tempted to go to confessions, make up some horrific crimes and finish with "Good thing you can't tell anyone about this. Now that I've gotten this off my chest, I feel good enough to do it again"

[tfitzgerald]

Just what boards needs another catholic bashing thread . The confidentially of confession should not be broken .

[gosplan]

This is just a load of media guff.


The popular image to protray is that a sex offender will confess crimes to teh priest who'll give him three hail mary's and absolve him.

Not what would happen at all.



I don't believe in the seal of confession by the way, but this is an issue promoted to crete a bit of outrage and have a go at the church.

[Penn]

Originally Posted by tfitzgerald

Just what boards needs another catholic bashing thread . The confidentially of confession should not be broken .

Why not? Because it's more important that child abusers have the right to confess their crimes to a priest in secret than it is for a priest to be able to potentially prevent a child abuser from abusing again?

[Sonics2k]

Originally Posted by tfitzgerald

Just what boards needs another catholic bashing thread . The confidentially of confession should not be broken .

Why not?
Because it's "traditional"?

That's really what it all comes down to, that and the CC refusing to accept that they are not above the laws of the land, and this isn't the first time it's happened.

[phutyle]

Originally Posted by gosplan

The popular image to protray is that a sex offender will confess crimes to teh priest who'll give him three hail mary's and absolve him.

Not what would happen at all.

Not that I think that would happen either, but would you mind telling us what would happen?

[joseph brand]

Priests: We won’t break seal of confession to report sex abuse.

Not surprising. Sure isn't that where priests go to confess their sins. Rape a few children, recite a few 'our fathers'/ 'hail mary's'. Everything's hunky dory.

One is absolved from all their 'sins'. A clean slate.

So, if a priest tells another 'man of the cloth', that he has raped some kids, the bishop is notified and the rapist is subsequently moved on to new pastures. And certain posters here, from the 'other' forum see no problem in that.

[Dades]

Originally Posted by tfitzgerald

Just what boards needs another catholic bashing thread.

If posters are bashing anything its the church's notion that one of it's laws supersedes the law of the State.

This notion of "catholic bashing" is a nonsense and reeks of false oppression. Clearly you know there's a specific issue at play here.

[robindch]

Originally Posted by gosplan

this is an issue promoted to crete a bit of outrage and have a go at the church.

Er, it's the church who were outraged to start with and said they won't submit to state law. And that's what subsequently annoyed people.

In any case, I don't remember things turning out very well for anybody, the last time the church felt itself above state law in respect of child abusers.

[fitz0]

Originally Posted by tfitzgerald

Just what boards needs another catholic bashing thread . The confidentially of confession should not be broken .

Yeah, all these atheists are just fundamentalist bigots. It's time the catholics fought back against this institutional abuse, er, state abetted indoctrination, ah... Er, oppression of catholics!

We are the 84% (give or take.)

[Galvasean]

Originally Posted by tfitzgerald

Just what boards needs another catholic bashing thread .

Just a thought, but maybe if they stopped being so bloody devious all the time people wouldn't feel the need to criticize them?

[marienbad]

Originally Posted by tfitzgerald

Just what boards needs another catholic bashing thread . The confidentially of confession should not be broken .

Not so- more like the catholic church looking for away to feel aggrieved

[Galvasean]

The RCC issued this statement:

[doctoremma]

Does the "seal of confession" cover any sin? A priest cannot report a man who currently has his wife locked up in a basement, being raped and tortured? A priest cannot report a person who confesses to having built a bomb and is thinking of detonating it in the middle of a city?