[ironingbored]

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...e-3092495.html

What an heinous organisation the Catholic Church is.

Also, I found this phrase particularly disturbing and potentially bordering on the antisemitic:

Fr Sean McDonagh of the Association of Catholic Priests, which represents 800 clergymen, warned last night: "I certainly wouldn't be willing to break the seal of confession for anyone -- Alan Shatter particularly."

[Sonics2k]

Charming bunch of folks aren't they.

Personally I think they should be arrested for assisting a crime.

[qrrgprgua]

Originally Posted by ironingbored

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...e-3092495.html

What an heinous organisation the Catholic Church is.

Also, I found this phrase particularly disturbing and potentially bordering on the antisemitic:

Hold on a second.... The seal of confession is a corner stone of ALL priests of ALL church's. Go an get a sound bit from the orthodox church or Coptic or Armenian.. Its not dictated by Rome or Vatican or Pope..

And nobody has the authority to change this... Its not about covering up abuse.

Anyway think about the logic.. If you knew the priest would report you would you bother to confess..

So point the figure elsewhere. Once somebody opens up in confession there are many means of helping them.. Outting them in confession is not one of them. On this the church can't do anything. They can't change the seal of confession

[Sonics2k]

Originally Posted by qrrgprgua

Hold on a second.... The seal of confession is a corner stone of ALL priests of ALL church's. Go an get a sound bit from the orthodox church or Coptic or Armenian.. Its not dictated by Rome or Vatican or Pope..

And nobody has the authority to change this... Its not about covering up abuse.

Anyway think about the logic.. If you knew the priest would report you would you bother to confess..

So point the figure elsewhere, this is not a catholic Church rule.

Oh ffs. Will you stop apologizing for these people who allowed Priests to get away with child abuse for ****ing decades.

What the hell would your Jesus say about that.

Shameful behavior by so called "Gods people".

[Sonics2k]

Originally Posted by qrrgprgua

H On this the church can't do anything. They can't change the seal of confession

YES THEY CAN!

/leaves thread before I get ban for calling out these ignorant disgraceful excuses for human beings.

[qrrgprgua]

Originally Posted by Sonics2k

Oh ffs. Will you stop apologizing for these people who allowed Priests to get away with child abuse for ****ing decades.

What the hell would your Jesus say about that.

Shameful behavior by so called "Gods people".

How do you know they even confessed their crimes in confession?

There have been many attacks on the seal of confession and many priests have died for it. Its not going to change and its not about protecting or covering up anything.

[Dades]

Originally Posted by qrrgprgua

Its not going to change and its not about protecting or covering up anything.

I agree that's probably true.

It's a tough one, this.

[Dades]

Also - calm down, people.

[Roger Hassenforder]

if a kiddie fiddler confesses his transgressions to a priest in a gloomy box and think's he's off the hook, and the priest is of the opinion this along with a few meaningless platatides is sufficient in the eyes of their sky fairy, both need to have a word with my rusty melon spoon.

If a Mooney (just for example, i dont know have they as much form as the RCC) rapes your child, and confesses his sins to his 'priest', would you like if he wasnt obliged to report it to the proper authorities, by which i mean those that can visit judgement and appropriate punishment in the here and now?

Go Shatter.

[MagicMarker]

If a priest hears a confession where a person admits to abusing a child and doesn't make an effort to report the crime, then quite simply the priest should be locked up with the abuser.

NO excuse.

[Wereghost]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a loophole whereby, if the seal of confession causes a crisis of conscience for a priest, he can confess this to another priest - or is it specifically a bishop? - and waive his own right to confidentially, thus theoretically allowing his confessor to take action.

[ScienceNerd]

If someone is sexually abusing children and another person knows about it and does nothing, it's putting other children at risk, as well as potential further abuse of previous victims.

How anyone can reconcile with that that is beyond me.

[ShooterSF]

Originally Posted by qrrgprgua

Anyway think about the logic.. If you knew the priest would report you would you bother to confess..

Are you serious? Just because it's unlikely doesn't mean you should continue to offer them protection.

[Gbear]

In general, is it a crime to be aware of a crime and not tell the police?

[Knasher]

Originally Posted by qrrgprgua

How do you know they even confessed their crimes in confession?

I doubt they would be fighting so hard for an exemption from the law if people weren't confessing their crimes to them.