[Temptamperu]

If we get a separation between between church and state and religion is taken from schools, who asked the man on the telly will teach us ethics.
Now I have heard this before be it here or in public "how would you know right from wrong if you do not believe in god?".
Its a question that actually frightens me a little. Normal enough people have said it to me both family and friends.

So would you like to see schools take the american route, No praying or godology in schools and a class called funnily enough "ethics class". Or should we just allow priests to continue lying to children and wasting weeks of education on ceremonies as long as they learn right from wrong.

[Al Capwned]

"Dont do anything to someone else that you wouldn't want done to you!"

I dont have any religous beliefs, but I dont need someone to tell me what's right and what's wrong!

[seanor3]

"Don't be a dick."

Cheques in the post please.

[MagicMarker]

Originally Posted by Temptamperu

So would you like to see schools take the american route, No praying or godology in schools and a class called funnily enough "ethics class". Or should we just allow priests to continue lying to children and wasting weeks of education on ceremonies as long as they learn right from wrong.

*looks at name of forum*

*looks at question*

[Temptamperu]

Thanks magic marker, great contribution. This was a question that was asked on TV last night and a question I have been asked by religious folk. There are people who think like this and its not only atheists that use this forum.

[Dades]

Schools are for teaching the State syllabus.

Parents are supposed to teach their children what's right and wrong.

Not that I'd trust all of them, either.

[Mark Hamill]

Who teaches us ethics now?

[recedite]

Originally Posted by Mark Hamill

Who teaches us ethics now?

Two answers;
1. In a secular setting; People who have studied ethics and are qualified to teach it.
2. In a religious run institution, people who have studied theology and believe that every word of a bizarre and contradictory old anthology of tales from 2-3 thousand years ago is truth.

[King Mob]

I learned my ethics from Atticus Finch and Spider-man the only connection to school was that I read both of them in the building.

[Fortyniner]

Direct them to secular states where there is no religious ethos/ethics in schools, like France or Spain. They don't waste valuable educational time on any religious indoctrination. Subjects like civics and citizenship are covered though. They seem to be managing OK.

It's the family/carer's duty to bring children up correctly, isn't it? If you get married/civic partnered in France the mayor will read out your parental duties to you and you will accept them.

[jill_valentine]

Originally Posted by King Mob

I learned my ethics from Atticus Finch and Spider-man the only connection to school was that I read both of them in the building.

If we had an ethics curriculum built around that pair, we wouldn't be doing half badly.

So long as we skip the whole Clone Wars bit, let's stay orthodox here.

[Mark Hamill]

Originally Posted by recedite

2. In a religious run institution, people who have studied theology and believe that every word of a bizarre and contradictory old anthology of tales from 2-3 thousand years ago is truth.

If thats ethics, then telling your little brother or sister the boogieman will get them if they get out of bed is ethics, because thats essentially how good and bad is explained in religious teaching.

[King Mob]

Originally Posted by jill_valentine

If we had an ethics curriculum built around that pair, we wouldn't be doing half badly.

So long as we skip the whole Clone Wars bit, let's stay orthodox here.

Not only is Spider-man a superior moral example to anything in Christianity, his narrative is more consistent and more sensible even if we include all the stuff about clones and him making a deal with the devil...

[Jernal]

Hitler obviously.

[jill_valentine]

I appear to have amalgamated the "Clone Saga" and the "Secret Wars".

For my grievous nerd sins, I am contrite.