[murpho999]

Really why would an Iphone 4 user upgrade to 4s?

Also, why would you even want to upgrade if you only have the phone (which is expensive) for a year?

What do you actually want in iPhone 5, bigger screen and widgets? Is that it?

[squonk]

I think myself that the 4S was a bit disappointing. I've got a 4 and I knew coming up to the launch that the phone wouldn't be aimed at me in the same way that the 5 might. I'm out of contract now so am free to change or hold depending on the 5 as I wish.

Regarding the argument that it's those who follow fashion who eat up the iPhone while those who are techs are more concerned with specs and maybe drawn to Android-based devices, I'm not certain that's true.

I'm a techie. I work at it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. I was initially drawn to the iPhone because the other Apple products I owned worked very well and I didn't spend half my evenings configuring them to do something. I was drawn to my other Apple products for that reason. I can do enough tinkering in work. When I get home I want tech that works and I'd rather have an evening with some harmonious comupter involvement than one where the computer is the involvement.

With a Mac, it's the whole package of OSX, the hardware and the ability to run any other OS I wish, all in a streamlined, nicely designed form. Maybe I can get an equivalent or more highly specced Dell cheaper, but spec isn't the be all and end all. A phone is the same. I could maybe get a Galaxy or htc with a higher spec than an iPhone but then I'd be stuck with Android and a lot of the mediocrity I see with it. If I could get iOS on another device that was better specced than the equivalent iPhone, I might think about that. As with the Mac, with the iPhone you're not just buying the hardware or the software, you're buying both together and the tight integration that that brings. You're also getting a great UI and a large app base with apps that are custom designed for the particular platform you're using.

I don't need everything now. I am prepared to wait for Apple to address some of the things that don't work so well in iOS or add missing features. A lot of the time the features are integrated well when they do come. I have never seen an Android device where the entire package bowled me over the way the iPhone does. Until they crack that integration problem, Android will always be the also-ran in my book.

[Dades]

Originally Posted by kingofslaves

I for one won't be getting the next iPhone as mine does what it says on the tin and that's good for me. I can listen to music, check email on the move, check the weather, book a taxi, find out when the next dart is, make phone calls and send texts and take photos and video. That's enough for me.

You probably thought your Nokia 5110 did everything you needed a phone to do as well.

While I agree with you regarding the 4S, I wouldn't dismiss future smartphones on the basis that your current one does everything you need.

[osh]

Hey, I have a blackberry curve and I'm planning on getting a new phone soon.

I'm leaning towards an iphone and will probably stick with that choice, though I'm also considering the Galaxy S2 or HTC One S.

Do you think it would be stupid to buy a 4s now with the iphone 5 due out?

Mind you October is a bit of a wait if its not out in July....

[1ZRed]

Originally Posted by osh

Hey, I have a blackberry curve and I'm planning on getting a new phone soon.

I'm leaning towards an iphone and will probably stick with that choice, though I'm also considering the Galaxy S2 or HTC One S.

Do you think it would be stupid to buy a 4s now with the iphone 5 due out?

Mind you October is a bit of a wait if its not out in July....

Wait for the S3 or iPhone 5. Why buy the 4S when you could get a much better product (iPhone 5) at the same price.
I'd say the the iPhone 5 will be out in october again though so get the S3 or wait if you can.

[Zascar]

BTW for those that think Android is just a shadow in the background compared to Apple, here are the latest ComScore stats:





So android now has 51% of the market, opposed to Apple's 30.7%. Samsung has 26% of the phone market - Apple has 14%.

Samsung are about to release the S3 in a few days and it's rumoured to be pretty impressive. Unless Apple come out with something 'truly' revolutionary - their days of total dominance are numbered.

[guil]

how much of that 51% are low end androids, try get sales figures for the S2 and 4S and see how they compare

[1ZRed]

Not one single android phone could beat out the sales of the 4S.
I think samsung sold 42 million phones in Q1 and Apple sold 35 but that was 100+ devices going against the 4S,4 and 3GS.

[itzme]

Originally Posted by Zascar

BTW for those that think Android is just a shadow in the background compared to Apple, here are the latest ComScore stats:





So android now has 51% of the market, opposed to Apple's 30.7%. Samsung has 26% of the phone market - Apple has 14%.

Samsung are about to release the S3 in a few days and it's rumoured to be pretty impressive. Unless Apple come out with something 'truly' revolutionary - their days of total dominance are numbered.

Jesus, where to start on this
Take a look at http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?1415 and http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?1307.

More android phones are being sold, iphones are making still making more money.
More android phones exist, iphones are being used more.
No-one buys apps on android apps, iphone apps are earning a fortune......
There is a hell a lot more to it than just comparing the number of phones.

[murpho999]

Originally Posted by Zascar

BTW for those that think Android is just a shadow in the background compared to Apple, here are the latest ComScore stats:

So android now has 51% of the market, opposed to Apple's 30.7%. Samsung has 26% of the phone market - Apple has 14%.

Samsung are about to release the S3 in a few days and it's rumoured to be pretty impressive. Unless Apple come out with something 'truly' revolutionary - their days of total dominance are numbered.

I don't understand why people write about this as if they have something personal to gain by Android succeeding and Apple failing.

Coming up with manipulated comparisons is just ridiculous seeing as Apple only sell one phone!

Can you not just let people enjoy their devices without tryiing to make yourselves out to be superior? You are just consumers/users at the end of the day.

[Stainless_Steel]

Originally Posted by Zascar

BTW for those that think Android is just a shadow in the background compared to Apple, here are the latest ComScore stats:





So android now has 51% of the market, opposed to Apple's 30.7%. Samsung has 26% of the phone market - Apple has 14%.

Samsung are about to release the S3 in a few days and it's rumoured to be pretty impressive. Unless Apple come out with something 'truly' revolutionary - their days of total dominance are numbered.

There are more hyandais sold than ferraris.

[Zascar]

That's an awful analogy. The only reason I brought this up was a few years ago Apple fan's used to preach how iPhones sell way way more devices so they must be better. This is no longer the case. Android has caught up and overtaken Apple in both overall sales, and features/performance of their top phones. Full credit to Apple for pretty much inventing the smartphone market etc - but unless the iPhone 5 takes a huge leap forward they will be left behind in the race to the front. They will still sell zillions of them as most iPhone users are more than happy with what they have and when the time comes they will get another iPhone.

My point is only to highlight that as a previous Apple/iPhone user who quite a while ago converted to Android and has not looked back - in the early days the iPhone fans used to slag off Android devices as being rubbish and sub par in comparison to iPhones - pointing out it's failures and listing reasons why iPhones were better. Now things have changed - and from where I'm standing it seems to have changed to 'sure why would you want that, simple is better, and this does everything I need anyway'...

I would genuinely love to see Apple come out with a game changing phone - healthy competition is better for everyone as it pushes all parties to innovate further and faster.

[Stainless_Steel]

Fair enough good points Zascar.

But to use market sales alone is not a true portrayal of the market in this case. The iPhone is number 1 still despite androids supposedly having better specs.

[gbee]

Originally Posted by frozenfrozen

nothing official as of yet, and there won't be until about a week before its launch. It will follow the same trend as always for its release, though.

Yes, indeed, fake mockup photos on youtube will turn out to be the real thing and .....

[whiterebel]

Originally Posted by Zascar

That's an awful analogy. The only reason I brought this up was a few years ago Apple fan's used to preach how iPhones sell way way more devices so they must be better. This is no longer the case. Android has caught up and overtaken Apple in both overall sales, and features/performance of their top phones. Full credit to Apple for pretty much inventing the smartphone market etc - but unless the iPhone 5 takes a huge leap forward they will be left behind in the race to the front. They will still sell zillions of them as most iPhone users are more than happy with what they have and when the time comes they will get another iPhone.

My point is only to highlight that as a previous Apple/iPhone user who quite a while ago converted to Android and has not looked back - in the early days the iPhone fans used to slag off Android devices as being rubbish and sub par in comparison to iPhones - pointing out it's failures and listing reasons why iPhones were better. Now things have changed - and from where I'm standing it seems to have changed to 'sure why would you want that, simple is better, and this does everything I need anyway'...

I would genuinely love to see Apple come out with a game changing phone - healthy competition is better for everyone as it pushes all parties to innovate further and faster.

And yet I still haven't heard one good reason why Android is better, apart from the stock answer - widgets and customisable.....both of which are doable with a jailbreak. Anyone who used the justification of "selling more iPhones so they must be better" is a complete doofus anyway. What I find amazing is (a) the amount of Android users who give out about iPhones, yet seem first in the queue to buy one and
(b) the amount of android users who come on here to give their opinions. I don't see so many iPhone users on the Android forums......