[40plus]

As a hard worker myself, my contract ended yesterday (a week earlier than expected but there you go) From some of the posts I have read Musgraves have very good pay, terms and conditions and I'm sure all who work there knew this and also knew that it was a very physical job when agreeing to take the position they were offered. Now after listening to the radio reports, newspapers and posts on this- this whole strike was about TWO DAYS difference between Dublin and Cork but everyone is jumping on the band wagon about how hard done by they are. Every job has its pros and cons. It is obvious some guys that stayed and went back felt it was a crazy demand in this day and age and more power to them. Easy solution to this problem is for the unhappy few outside the gate is to ask for a transfer to Dublin...Problem solved and those of us looking for work can avail of their positions!!

[Korean]

Originally Posted by bassboot

Yeah I've found myself getting dragged into it an awful lot more than I should be. Certain posts kinda set me off on one! Reading back I guess my reply to you was a tad over the top but you know yourself, you read something and emotions can cloud your opinions, no harm meant. But it's not my battle, and I'll leave it at this. I'd much rather argue about football in a bar on a Saturday!

I agree. More things to contribute to... A few cold ones will be waiting for me !

[Dudess]

I've read the story a few times and I'm still trying to figure out what has caused enough of a grievance to lead to strike action. And I'm not an anti union, anti industrial action etc person at all.

[gral6]

Are they gonna get their asses back to work ? Otherwise..is Musgrave taking on any CVs right now ?

[midmal30]

Originally Posted by gral6

Are they gonna get their asses back to work ? Otherwise..is Musgrave taking on any CVs right now ?

yes they are i work there they took on 30 last monday

[MrThrifty]

Originally Posted by gral6

Are they gonna get their asses back to work ? Otherwise..is Musgrave taking on any CVs right now ?

Sounds like your CV could just be a blank piece of paper from what folk are saying!!

That comment is spurred by the sort of nonsense regarding the nature of the work not being of physical benefit due to its stop start nature - what utter uninformed rubbish... Obviously so is my comment above!

[midmal30]

Originally Posted by 40plus

As a hard worker myself, my contract ended yesterday (a week earlier than expected but there you go) From some of the posts I have read Musgraves have very good pay, terms and conditions and I'm sure all who work there knew this and also knew that it was a very physical job when agreeing to take the position they were offered. Now after listening to the radio reports, newspapers and posts on this- this whole strike was about TWO DAYS difference between Dublin and Cork but everyone is jumping on the band wagon about how hard done by they are. Every job has its pros and cons. It is obvious some guys that stayed and went back felt it was a crazy demand in this day and age and more power to them. Easy solution to this problem is for the unhappy few outside the gate is to ask for a transfer to Dublin...Problem solved and those of us looking for work can avail of their positions!!

I work in the chill as a HDTM i get paid by the hour. there are about 100 involed in this dispute some came back to work plus some are long term sick who can not take part in the strike.ALSO may i say some did not go out on the picket line at all.There are about 20 to 30 ring leaders involed in this who were mad for a strike.There are plenty of lads who do not want to be out there at all but feel they are under pressure to stay from the ring leaders.One person was on the line came back into work and got abused by his so called friends by bad text messages.The Siptu rep had a meeting with the chill drivers yesterday friday to try and get support they told her to **** off the nice way.They are losing this battle fast no support from anybody they cant stand at the gate at the kinsale road side next to the centra shop they have to be so many feet back because musgraves got a injuction at that gate.The trucks are leaving bang on time the shops are happy with the level off service they are getting some are saying it is better.But no matter how tough they think they are the company have them by the balls and where they want the ring leaders outside the gate

[bassboot]

Originally Posted by MrThrifty

Sounds like your CV could just be a blank piece of paper from what folk are saying!!

That comment is spurred by the sort of nonsense regarding the nature of the work not being of physical benefit due to its stop start nature - what utter uninformed rubbish... Obviously so is my comment above!

Why don't you address the post in question then rather than have a sly dig using another post? Perhaps point out where said post is factually incorrect and enlighten the subject at hand with your knowledge and understanding of cardiovascular exercise? Or are you another one who just shoots his mouth off and disappears when put on the spot. Come on then, quote the post you referred to, highlight anything that you feel is uninformed and give a proper rebuttal that doesn't involve a pithy comeback.

[MrThrifty]

Originally Posted by bassboot

Why don't you address the post in question then rather than have a sly dig using another post? Perhaps point out where said post is factually incorrect and enlighten the subject at hand with your knowledge and understanding of cardiovascular exercise? Or are you another one who just shoots his mouth off and disappears when put on the spot. Come on then, quote the post you referred to, highlight anything that you feel is uninformed and give a proper rebuttal that doesn't involve a pithy comeback.

Bassboot, there's only one of us dragging this off topic...Since you insist on doing so, tge post in question was clearly one of yours. Just wiki 'exercise' to be enlightened in this area. As for your second question/request, it comes across as an "I claim you boyyy!". Reminds me of kids back in the good old school days... How ironic given the reported bullying of workers who left the picket line by those friends of yours at the school, no sorry company, gates...

Looking forward to the outcome of this strike.

[rebelchick2]

I think no matter what banter goes on here, there is only going to be one outcome! The situation at the moment is there are approx 100 people on strike, they have no support within the rest of the company and the work is getting done despite the strike. Musgraves don't need the strikers to go back in anytime soon so it looks like it's just a matter of how long the strikers can do without the getting paid and eventually they will have to go back in, be that one by one or as a collective group.

[bassboot]

Originally Posted by MrThrifty

Bassboot, there's only one of us dragging this off topic...Since you insist on doing so, tge post in question was clearly one of yours. Just wiki 'exercise' to be enlightened in this area. As for your second question/request, it comes across as an "I claim you boyyy!". Reminds me of kids back in the good old school days... How ironic given the reported bullying of workers who left the picket line by those friends of yours at the school, no sorry company, gates...

Looking forward to the outcome of this strike.

Firstly, the exercise point involved an exchange between me and another poster regarding free gym membership. But if you're going to quote mine and take something out of content then that's your prerogative. But at least have the courtesy to quote the post instead of trying the sneaky dig route. And you accuse me of school yard antics!

People are coming on here and ripping the strikers, without knowing the facts or having never worked there. That to me would be uninformed posting. I used to work there, I have a very good understanding of the situation and while I don't necessarily think it was a good move to strike I understand the motives, however hopeless the chances of success.

Oh, and perhaps you should look up the difference between exercise and aerobic exercise. And then carry out an experiment to determine the difference in calories burnt between a shift in there and the equivalent walk without stopping. I did. I look forward to comparing notes.

[MrThrifty]

Welcome to boards Bassboot, or at least this thread anyway. Be aware that posts are viewable by everyone and we're free to comment or respond - there are no private 'exchanges'!!!

As for the rest of your last post, much as you are tempting me, I'm going to resist the urge to respond. Hopefully this thread will get back on track (the term keyboard warrior comes to mind!)...

[bassboot]

Originally Posted by MrThrifty

Welcome to boards Bassboot, or at least this thread anyway. Be aware that posts are viewable by everyone and we're free to comment or respond - there are no private 'exchanges'!!!

As for the rest of your last post, much as you are tempting me, I'm going to resist the urge to respond. Hopefully this thread will get back on track (the term keyboard warrior comes to mind!)...

Indeed they are. I'm not here to troll, wum or whatever tag you choose to put on me (internet warrior! Come on!) Yeah, things got a little off topic with Korean, but afterwards we at least had a sort of mutual understanding. Top poster that guy. Bit of give and take, bit of banter.

Again, if what I post is so utterly ludicrous and fictional then by all means feel free to point out any flaws in my argument. I joined these boards ostensibly to support old work colleagues, guys who I know are honest workers and are having genuine grievances with the company and the undermining of their contracts. You hide behind all the standard forum cliches that I have encountered previously. Oh, here's a noob, let's put him in his place. Let me ask you this, have you worked there? Do you have any sort of knowledge of the issues other than what you've picked up in the media? If so, then let's discuss them like adults. After all, isn't the purpose of boards.ie to discuss the issues of the day? To debate topical points of discussion? Or do I have to post about the stale state of cork night life and the search for a good curry before I am taken seriously?

Yes, I am new to these forums. Perhaps some of my posts aren't as on topic as you would like. But I am more than happy to engage fellow posters in honest, open debate. If someone says something I disagree with then I debate the point with them? Does this make me an internet warrior in your book? Someone who looks for honesty and forthright opinions? A proper debate of the issue? Where does that leave you then? Because I haven't quite come across a term for someone who is all posturing and no substance.

[Cuddlesworth]

Its not really that surprising that the lads striking have no real support. They might be hard workers but they are not skilled workers and there is no lack of ex-construction workers who will replace them in a heartbeat. I'd love to know how they managed to convince themselves that this was going to end well.

[Show Time]

It seems to be all over.