[batistuta9]

Originally Posted by sReq | uTeK

Tried to sign up for LOF there but to no avail.

Do I need to be invited ?

it's closed for new subscribers, at least at the minute

[sReq | uTeK]

Gay much.

On a completely off topic, way out of left field.

How do i go about requesting a name change, i've tired in feedback.

[niallo27]

Originally Posted by daRobot

Paying for this service is bananas guys. Wiziwig will have a load of HD links for all the games.

Granted, they'll be in Russian, but to be honest that doesn't bother me at all, and it seems that's what these two providers are linking to anyway.

Its only 5 quid though for 60 days to have every match in front of you, its hardly going to break you, plus being able to run it on the apple tv id pay a hell of a lot more.

[theteal]

Originally Posted by sReq | uTeK

Gay much.

On a completely off topic, way out of left field.

How do i go about requesting a name change, i've tired in feedback.

become a boards.ie subscriber. . .it'll cost ya

[daRobot]

Originally Posted by Pro. F

The free streams are completely unreliable. I've used wiziwig and pretty much every free streaming option I could find at different times. The free streams can be perfect one game and then all over the shop for the next game. You can be watching a brilliant, steady stream and then all of a sudden it will develop problems or just die completely. What the paid streams give you is a guaranteed reliability minute to minute and game to game.

I can't say i've ever experienced that problem at all, and I watch plenty of games this way.

[upandcumming]

All the Sky Sports games are on Bloodzeed Sopcast so it's grand! All the games are able to be got on the apple tv anyway!

[Paully D]

http://www.techradar.com/news/intern...league-1092471

The Premier League has announced that it had to put an end to thousands of illegal web streams of its matches last year.

Given that the league recently signed a deal worth £760 million a year with Sky, and another with BT for the 2013-2014 season, there's big money in television rights and having these illegal streams pop up on the internet is causing a massive headache for the football authorities.

According to the BBC, it had to shutdown 30,000 streams of football last season, which equated to around 75 streams per match played.

The Premier League used a company called NetResult to monitor for activity and get rid of the streams as they appeared; the company's aim was to get rid of 80 per cent of all streams while a match is taking place.

Speaking about the reasons behind shuttering the streams, a spokesperson for Premier League said: "If you want top quality football, it costs money.
"It's not just about star performers getting paid well, it's about investment in facilities and youth development."

This view is not one that's shared by everybody, however. TechRadar contacted the Pirate Party about the illegal streams and it believes fairness is the key and the Premier League should sort out some sort of pay-per-view system for fans, instead of pushing them to signing up to the likes of Sky.
"If the premier league stubbornly refuses to sell the fans what they want, then of course fans will find a way to watch the teams they love," said Andrew Robinson, UK spokesperson for the Pirate Party.

"Instead of playing an unwinnable game of whack-a-mole with low quality streams, surely the best solution would be to simply sell the fans the coverage they so desperately want?"

"I simply don't believe the Premier League's excuse that stopping fans watching football is essential to keep up revenue. If you give a fan a choice of missing a game, or paying something to see it, isn't it blindingly obvious which one would make more money?"

"The Premier League has recently lost a court case over allowing European fans access to TV coverage that British fans are denied.

"I hope this ruling will encourage them to stop fighting the public and start giving British fans the same chance to watch 3pm Premiership matches that fans in other countries already have."

Although Sky hasn't revealed whether it will be offering sport through its Now TV PAYG service, it is something the company is looking into, which may well - as the Pirate Party notes - deter people from getting their football fix illegally.

TechRadar also contacted Neil Parkes, partner at media law firm Wiggin LLP, who explained that the Premier League had every right to protect its content, although given that many of the sites are based outside the UK, policing is an issue.

"Illegal streams of live sporting events is a growing problem across the globe. With faster broadband speeds illegal streams are becoming more reliable and of higher quality," said Parkes.

"Many streaming sites are based outside the UK in jurisdictions where it can be difficult to take effective action. An increasing problem are websites that collate links to multiple live sport streaming sites in the mistaken belief that they are doing no more than providing a search engine service and are therefore not liable for copyright infringement.

"However, recent decisions in the UK civil and criminal courts have established that the provision of such linking services is infringing and can constitute serious criminal offences."

Parkes also noted that these sites are making money off the back of the streams, despite having not rights to the footage.
"The operators of streaming and linking websites know full well that they do not have the right to stream the matches but do so nonetheless and many make substantial sums of money from subscriptions to their illegal sites or from advertising revenue.

"The Premier League exploits the commercial rights of the clubs in the league by licencing the rights to broadcast live matches and it has an obligation to the clubs and to the broadcasters it licences to protect its content."

Great work by them in fairness, I haven't been able to find a single stream for the best part of a year now

[Omeceron]

Originally Posted by batistuta9

it's closed for new subscribers, at least at the minute

It opened briefly last week. Someone posted it in this thread. I got my brother signed up. When I came back to thank the person, the post had been deleted. Then when I checked LOF again the sign up option was gone.

My brothers sign up went through without any issues.

[Discodog]

Originally Posted by Paully D

http://www.techradar.com/news/intern...league-1092471



Great work by them in fairness, I haven't been able to find a single stream for the best part of a year now

But doesn't it suggest that some companies like LOF & FFS are operating within the law or in a grey enough area. Both have big internet profiles, have been in business for years & are hardly difficult to spot. None of their streams were blocked.

[ceekay74]

Originally Posted by Discodog

But doesn't it suggest that some companies like LOF & FFS are operating within the law or in a grey enough area. Both have big internet profiles, have been in business for years & are hardly difficult to spot. None of their streams were blocked.

I would have assumed that they aren't exactly legal but would love to know exactly how they're getting around the legalities.

[Fowler87]

Originally Posted by Discodog

But doesn't it suggest that some companies like LOF & FFS are operating within the law or in a grey enough area. Both have big internet profiles, have been in business for years & are hardly difficult to spot. None of their streams were blocked.

It's odd alright. If anything its more illegal as they are making money at expense of Sky etc.. I wonder how many official sky subscriptions lof and fss work off ?? I'm not complaining though

[Jax Teller]

Fss just put up the schedule for the weekend .
They have all 6 3pm games due to shown

[opr]

Fair play to them. That's some schedule for Saturday with no doubt more stuff added between now and then.

Saturday 18th

04:30 AM - 07:30 AM
Aussie Rules - Essendon v Carlton 4.30AM

09:00 AM - 11:30 AM
Football - Beach Soccer EuroLeague 9AM

10:00 AM - 12:00 PM
Tv Show - Soccer AM 10AM

10:30 AM - 01:15 PM
Rugby - Rugby Championship - Australia and New Zealand 10.30AM

10:30 AM - 07:00 PM
Test Cricket - England v South Africa 10.30AM

11:30 AM - 02:30 PM
Football - Ross County v Celtic 11.30AM

12:30 PM - 03:00 PM
Football - Leeds v Wolverhampton Wanderers 12.30AM

01:15 PM - 03:15 PM
Rugby - Currie Cup -Griquas v Western Province 1.15PM

03:00 PM - 05:00 PM
Football - Fulham v Norwich 3PM

03:00 PM - 07:00 PM
Football - Reading v Stoke City 3PM

03:00 PM - 05:00 PM
Football - WBA v Liverpool 3PM

03:00 PM - 05:00 PM
Football - QPR v Swansea City 3PM

03:00 PM - 05:00 PM
Football - Arsenal v Sunderland 3PM

03:00 PM - 05:00 PM
Football - West Ham v Aston Villa 3PM

03:30 PM - 06:00 PM
Rugby - South Africa v Argentina 3.30PM

04:30 PM - 08:00 PM
Football - Newcastle v Tottenham 5.30PM

05:45 PM - 07:45 PM
Cycling - Vuelta a Espana 5.45PM

06:00 PM - 08:25 PM
Super League - Widnes Vikings v Hull FC 6PM

06:00 PM - 10:00 PM
Tennis - Cincinnati Masters 6PM

06:00 PM - 10:00 PM
Golf - PGA Golf 6PM

07:30 PM - 10:00 PM
Football - Sevilla v Getafe 7.30PM

10:00 PM - 11:55 PM
Football - Mallorca v Espanyol 10PM

Now that's a proper days sport

Opr

[Pro. F]

Originally Posted by daRobot

I can't say i've ever experienced that problem at all, and I watch plenty of games this way.

I don't know what to say. I've heard what you are saying said before a few times, but it never matches up with my experience.

[batistuta9]

Originally Posted by Discodog

But doesn't it suggest that some companies like LOF & FFS are operating within the law or in a grey enough area. Both have big internet profiles, have been in business for years & are hardly difficult to spot. None of their streams were blocked.

the grey area you refer to is as black & white as a black & white chess board

what they're doing is illegal plain & simple

they've servers running in countries where no action will be taken i'd imagine or else they'd want to be looking into it

although from the articles it sounds like they're using the sites that link to streams to find them like sopcast etc. maybes why they're going under the radar