[amiable]

Originally Posted by Thanx 4 The Fish

Go back on what promise?

Someone broke a rule, they got infracted for it. There was no goal posts moved, it has been a rule for as long as I have been around that if you abuse someone in the forum you face sanction, now I may be missing something in your post but if I have then it is not for want of trying to see what you are getting at.

Perhaps you could spell out what part of infracting someone for breaching the charter falls into the bracket of goal post moving or promise breaching because I am completely failing to see it myself.

I couldn't be arsed. My feedback is you as a mod are not to be trusted. That is all

[Thanx 4 The Fish]

Originally Posted by Des

Which is what exactly

Is wishing death on someone not actionable?

Wishing injury on someone has been before, death is worse than injury.

It was in the reported post too.

Did you report the post that you are complaining there has been no action taken on? You witnessed it, did you report it because I can see no evidence of you having done so. If you felt that strongly about it all I would have thought you would have reported it.

As for people being busy, that is the way it is, all mods are busy and all have different things to do in different parts of their day. We are all busy and the fact that nobody else took any action at all on it before I did has not even come into your thinking in your quest to once again have a go at me (I have honestly lost count of the number of times you have called for my head). That is what this is Des, nobody was going to win because the person that reported this post it seems did not have any issue with the wishing death upon someone as it has only recently been reported. As for not having enough time to moderate, I have just spent the last hour answering to you on something that is a correct application of the charter that everyone who posts here signed up to and agreed. Maybe we would have more time if we did not have to do this all of the time.

[Thanx 4 The Fish]

Originally Posted by amiable

I couldn't be arsed. My feedback is you as a mod are not to be trusted. That is all

So let's just get this straight then. Because I infracted a post that was reported by a user of the forum and was abusive, you have accused me of moving goalposts, breaking promises and have called me untrustworthy but you cannot be arsed to say why.

Well played.

[amiable]

Originally Posted by Thanx 4 The Fish

So let's just get this straight then. Because I infracted a post that was reported by a user of the forum and was abusive, you have accused me of moving goalposts, breaking promises and have called me untrustworthy but you cannot be arsed to say why.

Well played.

Thanks

Also by saying well played proves nothing.

[Thanx 4 The Fish]

Originally Posted by amiable

Also by saying well played proves nothing.

Much like making unsubstantiated claims of goal post moving, breach of promise and untrustworthiness on the back of a correct applications of the rules.

[Thanx 4 The Fish]

Originally Posted by amiable

To be honest I try not to post when you are around on thread as I don't trust you one little bit.
You went back on your word and dug your heels in with me before because you might have looked foolish for going head first in.
Even the Cat mod agreed with me at the time but you refused point blank to adnit you fcuked up.

Ah so now we get to the crux of it, I infracted you more than a year ago and you still have a bee in your bonnet. And there's me thinking that your feedback here is to do with this instance (easy mistake to make) rather than you just jumping in to get a dig in because you are peeved about something that happened more than a year ago. My mistake.

Have you any feedback about the current moderation in the forum?

[amiable]

Originally Posted by Thanx 4 The Fish

Ah so now we get to the crux of it, I infracted you more than a year ago and you still have a bee in your bonnet. And there's me thinking that your feedback here is to do with this instance (easy mistake to make) rather than you just jumping in to get a dig in because you are peeved about something that happened more than a year ago. My mistake.

Have you any feedback about the current moderation in the forum?

Well that infraction was over turned a in the current moderation of this forum.

It was proved that your infraction was ridiculous.

My feedback is that you are in fact still a terrible mod and you go back on agreements made.

[amiable]

Originally Posted by Thanx 4 The Fish

Much like making unsubstantiated claims of goal post moving, breach of promise and untrustworthiness on the back of a correct applications of the rules.

You would be an expert on that. You seem to be a part time mod. I'd prefer if you were no longer a mod and let people who can give the time to doing the job take over but I'm sure you're ego is in the way

[copacetic]

Originally Posted by amiable

I couldn't be arsed. My feedback is you as a mod are not to be trusted. That is all

This is the kind of crap that makes boards so hard to mod, people want to get in sly digs and generalisations constantly for personal reasons.

I had a serious issue with a previous soccer mod but as hard as it was did my best to keep any personal grudge type posting off the forum.

The mods cant win and the very type of poster that causes the most issues is the one to then campaign for weeks and months via reported posts, feedback, dispute resolution and constant whining.

IMO the moderation is reasonable, personally I'd be more inclined to post and read the forum if it was a fair bit stricter, however they probably have it about right based on a fair medium between keeping things on a level and dealing with the fallout of being stricter. Also the backup from higher up can be very poor imo, if the soccer mods are in agreement on an action then they should be backed up as the people on the ground.

Id echo some of the concerns about consistency though, the recent Barton thread was taken as an opportunity for constant abuse rather than discussion. The first page of posts were early on dealt with via infractions, presumably to try and prevent the abuse continuing. However then the exact same type of posts later on where let go even though some were reported.

Consistency is hard to do on a busy forum but it's often the out for malcontents so I'd focus on it if possible.

[amiable]

Originally Posted by copacetic

This is the kind of crap that makes boards so hard to mod, people want to get in sly digs and generalisations constantly for personal reasons.

I had a serious issue with a previous soccer mod but as hard as it was did my best to keep any personal grudge type posting off the forum.

The mods cant win and the very type of poster that causes the most issues is the one to then campaign for weeks and months via reported posts, feedback, dispute resolution and constant whining.

IMO the moderation is reasonable, personally I'd be more inclined to post and read the forum if it was a fair bit stricter, however they probably have it about right based on a fair medium between keeping things on a level and dealing with the fallout of being stricter. Also the backup from higher up can be very poor imo, if the soccer mods are in agreement on an action then they should be backed up as the people on the ground.

Id echo some of the concerns about consistency though, the recent Barton thread was taken as an opportunity for constant abuse rather than discussion. The first page of posts were early on dealt with via infractions, presumably to try and prevent the abuse continuing. However then the exact same type of posts later on where let go even though some were reported.

Consistency is hard to do on a busy forum but it's often the out for malcontents so I'd focus on it if possible.

There's a reason I can't be arsed entering debate with T4TF.
An agreement was made with him before and he changed his mind completely after the agreement was met.
Hence why bothering debating with him as he is not true to his word?
I'll debate with almost anybody but why bother when the other party is not trustworthy and backs out of agreements for no other reason than if they back down they'll look silly?

That is why I can't be arsed with T4TF

[copacetic]

But you must see that a pile of posts saying the same thing aren't feedback and all they are just petty and childish and don't get anyone anywhere including yourself?

Half this thread is people getting specific pointless personal issues off their chests, it's I no interest or help to anyone else.

[amiable]

Originally Posted by copacetic

But you must see that a pile of posts saying the same thing aren't feedback and all they are just petty and childish and don't get anyone anywhere including yourself?

Half this thread is people getting specific pointless personal issues off their chests, it's I no interest or help to anyone else.

I think it's quite clear that my feedback is that T4TF shouldn't be a mod.
that isn't childish. It is my observation that he swans in now and then, hands out a few infractions and fecks off and lets others deal with the consequences months down the line.

For the record i didn't persue my infraction to be overturned. It was others that did.
There's a DRP thread where I agree to disagree with Khannie on the infraction and he acknowledges how good I was about it.

Call me childish all you like but I was infracted wrongly and the other mods agreed but the childish one wouldn't admit the mistake.
This is all relevant feedback IMHO

[Adolf Hipster]

Have to say I agree with des/amiable.

I got infracted for saying someone was smart, sent t4tf and didn't even get a reply so decided not to bother with it.

[LuckyLloyd]

When does the new Soccer forum season begin?

[helimachoptor]

The people saying T4TF is a part time mod, you are correct (s)he is, I am and everyone else who mod Boards.ie are part timers.

We arent paid and real life, work, marriage, kids, holidays does mean we cant be on 24-7 waiting to drop the ban hammer on someone.

* I'm saying this as someone who T4TF recently infracted due to a post I made.

tbh I do not get back to every single PM I'm sent, if the reason of the ban, warning etc is clear from the post there's no need.