[warlikedave]

Originally Posted by greendom

I think testing results will be more reliable with the dual feed.

Originally Posted by Omar C

Hey dave,

Can you please help me i was your pictures on boards.ie of the card trick can you please help me get it on my sky boxes @ home i have 1 tb with hd sub & standard HD box aswell.

Ive pmed ye in response to your pm

[warlikedave]

UPDATE ON CARD TRICK

The recording issue has not resolved itself. the viewing clash is still persisting....so it seems that the beta does not allow recording in single feed mode and I cant test dual feed mode but I suspect it would not make a difference (an opinion/educated response) since I can record any program on the normal non modified epg channels in single feed mode.

So: Card trick Analysis On SKY+HD Box in single feed mode with Beta Picasso Software (they dont use darwin anymore):

YES: EPG Addition of Channels SD and HD
YES: Reminders
YES: Series Link
YES: Live Pause and rewind/fast forward

NO: Recording is a fail on a single feed box when trying to record on ADDED CARD TRICK CHANNELS anyways - yet to be tested on dual mode but I dont hold much hope... Ill keep trying different stuff in the mean time and see that I can do

NOTE that recording on normal NON card trick added channels works perfectly in single feed mode.


UPDATE ON BETA EPG

Reports of epg bugs, observations and some basic info:

1 - Channel Listings in EPG view can take up to 90 seconds to load - it is an intermittent problem been experienced by others - confirmed as a bug

2 - People will notice a slightly longer period of blue screen while switching channels - sky have clarified that this is an addition to ensure proper channel sync with the box, sound, visual etc all synced up for best viewing performance

3 - Planner items have disappeared but hard drive space has stayed the same - a soft or hard reboot fixes this but it is a bug

4 - Sky beta testers number above 400 according to sky and there is a good level of feedback coming through to the dedicated forums that sky have for this beta

Any questions - feel free to ask

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[1dave]

If i take it the card trick wont work, can sky update my box automatically? Is there some way i can keeping the recording feature or is it just a matter of time b4 it goes.

[warlikedave]

Originally Posted by 1dave

If i take it the card trick wont work, can sky update my box automatically? Is there some way i can keeping the recording feature or is it just a matter of time b4 it goes.

The card trick works for everything except:

actual recording on the channels ADDED by the card trick. When the beta is over and the full release of this epg announced - ye wont be able to stop it...maybe ye could say to sky that you dont want to be updated but i doubt they will allow that. This beta is 1TB box and drx 890 amstrad boxes only so it will be a while before we see a full release - august maybe...i cant be certain.

This only a beta and its limited to 2 types of boxes so we cant be sure as of yet in regards to effect on other boxes plus the final release date.

[greendom]

Hey Warlike, have you tried it with a dual feed yet or have you heard of anyone who has ?

[warlikedave]

Originally Posted by greendom

Hey Warlike, have you tried it with a dual feed yet or have you heard of anyone who has ?

I dont have two cables from any one location in the house unfortunately - i cant understand why it wont work though. i can record perfectly on any channel besides the ones added via card trick. Live pause works on those channels though so the skybox is saving a buffer on those channels when paused.

I dont know anyone who has a dual feed sky+hd box with the new software in ireland

[greendom]

Originally Posted by warlikedave

I dont have two cables from any one location in the house unfortunately - i cant understand why it wont work though. i can record perfectly on any channel besides the ones added via card trick. Live pause works on those channels though so the skybox is saving a buffer on those channels when paused.

I dont know anyone who has a dual feed sky+hd box with the new software in ireland

I know what you're saying - I'm just clutching at straws really

[warlikedave]

Originally Posted by greendom

I know what you're saying - I'm just clutching at straws really

Never any harm in asking

[manutd83]

When do you think they will bring in beta

[warlikedave]

Originally Posted by manutd83

When do you think they will bring in beta

The beta was already launched - there will be no recall of it since it is functioning well enough with the exception of bugs listed here - the card trick is not garenteed or designed by sky so they wont see it as a bug if it doesnt record.

The beta will end with the launch of the Full EPG for all customers

This information is accurate enough but sky being sky could change things....Ill keep ye as informed as I can

[gtg60]

Originally Posted by warlikedave

i can record perfectly on any channel besides the ones added via card trick. Live pause works on those channels though so the skybox is saving a buffer on those channels when paused.

Hang on, so the 'Card Trick' channels you can Pause, Rewind etc but can't record, that is weird

What other issues are people talking about on the Beta forum?

[warlikedave]

Originally Posted by gtg60

Hang on, so the 'Card Trick' channels you can Pause, Rewind etc but can't record, that is weird

What other issues are people talking about on the Beta forum?

Aye -the sky+hd box has no issue using the hard drive for buffering and storing live pause and yet it wont record.

I can pm you an official listing of issues from the sky forum but cannot post the full listings and details of it here - request via pm please for full listings and info

[warlikedave]

Since I cant post the full listing here - ill post the main ones that are still open so far

Stability Issues
- MiniTV not shown / blue screen
- Channel Numbers appear in grid but listings don’t load
- STB stuck in standby or blue screen coming out of standby
- STB locked on one channel
- Planner content disappears until reboot
- STB locks up on deletion / in planner
- Unresponsive STB w/No Signal
- Interactive blue screen stability problems
- Unable to delete reminder
- STB freeze on adding keep to anytime recording
- Unable to exit playback using back button
- Unstable STB with range of issues reported by Woddy
- Anytime+ glitches occasionally during playback

Significant interface issues
- PIN Request on Other Channels
- Unable to access third party subscribed channel (purchase dialogue)
- Future recordings show “To be recorded 0%”
- Live Pause Unavailable
- Unable to play “The London Debate” from showcase
- Unexpected Anytime+ downloads

[energy1942]

It would not surprise me if not having 2 cables is making a difference,
channels like itv2, channel 5 do have differences when recording, for instance if you record 2 channels at the same time one or both being a card trick channel when you enter a channel number e.g. 118 you will find on the screen message that you are making 2 recordings, this does not happen if you are recording 2 irish subscription channels e.g. sky one & sky sports2, and you key 106 or 402 on your remote you can watch one of them while recording, also if you have been watching say sky one for a while after it has started you can still record from the start but you would be unable to do this on say itv4 as it would only record from the moment you press the record button even if you have been watching the programme from the start.

[warlikedave]

Originally Posted by energy1942

It would not surprise me if not having 2 cables is making a difference,
channels like itv2, channel 5 do have differences when recording, for instance if you record 2 channels at the same time one or both being a card trick channel when you enter a channel number e.g. 118 you will find on the screen message that you are making 2 recordings, this does not happen if you are recording 2 irish subscription channels e.g. sky one & sky sports2, and you key 106 or 402 on your remote you can watch one of them while recording, also if you have been watching say sky one for a while after it has started you can still record from the start but you would be unable to do this on say itv4 as it would only record from the moment you press the record button even if you have been watching the programme from the start.

It could - I just cant test it though Single feed recording is a simple record of the same channel though - its less complicated than a dual tuner record in alot of ways. Hmmm then why does live pause work and recording not so then on the added channels since the recording facility can access this buffer used for live pause and save it on official epg channels?

Im quite baffled myself