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01-04-2012, 15:40   #1
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cleaners looking for more than minimum wage

I just can't get my head around this. The minimum wage is Ireland is €8.65 but most people doing cleaning ironing are looking for €10 to €15 per hour.

what is this about ?? a Celtic Tiger thing that hasn't gone away?

Should cleaners be paid more than the minimum wage ? In continental Europe, most people (housewives) would gladly help for 6-7 euros per hour.

Why do people in Ireland still think they should make a huge salary even from cleaning ?

It's jus a CLEANING job, no qualication required. This really drives me mad.
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01-04-2012, 15:41   #2
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Maybe they're really good at it?
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Why dont you do it then OP?

Tis a highly lucrative job
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01-04-2012, 15:46   #4
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get in some foreigners. They will work gladly for 8 an hour cash.
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I just can't get my head around this. The minimum wage is Ireland is €8.65 but most people doing cleaning ironing are looking for €10 to €15 per hour.

what is this about ?? a Celtic Tiger thing that hasn't gone away?

Should cleaners be paid more than the minimum wage ? In continental Europe, most people (housewives) would gladly help for 6-7 euros per hour.

Why do people in Ireland still think they should make a huge salary even from cleaning ?

It's jus a CLEANING job, no qualication required. This really drives me mad.
Its called market forces, if you don't want to pay the going rates then clean up yourself. Simple.
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Why does it bother you?

Are you annoyed you have to pay a cleaner more than €7/hour.

There are plenty of people on the other end of the scale - TDs for example - who are totally incompetent and earning way over what they should be on, plus all the benefits and perks. That annoys me more
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I just can't get my head around this. The minimum wage is Ireland is €8.65 but most people doing cleaning ironing are looking for €10 to €15 per hour.

what is this about ?? a Celtic Tiger thing that hasn't gone away?

Should cleaners be paid more than the minimum wage ? In continental Europe, most people (housewives) would gladly help for 6-7 euros per hour.

Why do people in Ireland still think they should make a huge salary even from cleaning ?

It's jus a CLEANING job, no qualication required. This really drives me mad.
Well a lot of the cleaner jobs being posted recently actually request previous cleaning experience. Cleaning is a tough and tiresome job, if they can get more than the minium wage, then let them. It's not like as if they holding the employer to ransom with a hot iron to hire them.

Edit: Scratch that, how dare they exploit hard, honest working citizens, it's a sham!

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Do you have a source for this OP?

Cleaning is hard work, and is often seen as demeaning, so I don't blame people for looking to earn more than the minimum wage.

Why does it bother you anyway?

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You are talking about the cleaner who comes to your house, not hotel cleaners etc. They are gladly worth €10 an hour considering they have cleaned many a messy house party in about 4 hours.
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I pay my cleaner €10 an hour, worth every cent.
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The way some cleaners are thought to be slaves is particurarly dreadful, and arose from the snotty, Celtic Tiger. Thinking that they were there to pick up every little bit of rubbish you didn't bother to put away was commonplace, I remember in school the view was particularly demeaning of them. Some of the messes that they have to clean up are pretty horrible and you can't blame them for looking for more money, for what can be a sqeamish job.

Also, it depends like someone said there, the context of the cleaning, e.g if they are someone's personal cleaner or not.
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Source OP?
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My Sister's rich friends pay their cleaners €15 an hour. If you can't afford to pay your cleaners that much you're clearly not wealthy enough to deserve one.
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Rather than per hour, pay one amount. Eg: €30 to clean the house. They clean it in 2 hours, grand, they take three, they still get paid €30. They don't do a good job, they don't get re-hired. They do a good job, their number will be given to other people.
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Perhaps because it's far more difficult for someone to live and bring up a family on the princely sum of €6-7 an hour than in other European countries. They aren't forcing you to hire them and they do a tough demeaning job. Good for them if they can get a higher wage.
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