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28-03-2012, 15:53   #1
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Level Crossing: Baldoyle Rd vs Merrion Gates

would anyone be aware - is there any valid reason why the level crossing at baldoyle road can remain down for extremely long periods of time (up to 10mins? if there are 2 trains) while the merrion gates drops very soon before a train passes and rarely remians down for 2 trains.
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28-03-2012, 18:02   #2
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It may be down to the signalling - at Merrion Road, the signals are likely close together (more trains and more stations), but at Baldoyle Road, they might be far apart.
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I have the bloody misfortune of having to cross this cursed level crossing in order to get to work every day. I thought that there was signalling work done in the area but maybe it hasn't been comissioned yet. The traffic jams are crazy though.
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29-03-2012, 23:43   #4
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Nearly every crossing on the Dublin - Waterford line goes down for 10 minutes or more.
Its bloody ridiculous, especially the way it stays closed for a good 1 - 2 mins after the train has passed.
and this is only for 1 train
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30-03-2012, 14:30   #5
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would anyone be aware - is there any valid reason why the level crossing at baldoyle road can remain down for extremely long periods of time (up to 10mins? if there are 2 trains) while the merrion gates drops very soon before a train passes and rarely remians down for 2 trains.
It must be the distance between the 2 trains. The barrier may come down after the train leaves howth junction heading to howth and stays down for the train thats just left howth. Its something like that anyway.
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Nearly every crossing on the Dublin - Waterford line goes down for 10 minutes or more.
Its bloody ridiculous, especially the way it stays closed for a good 1 - 2 mins after the train has passed.
and this is only for 1 train
I find it hard to beleave that you have being at most of the level crossings. Which ones do stay down for a long time and I will explain why they do.
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31-03-2012, 01:42   #7
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Howth-Howth Junction is closed next weekend, presumably for the signalling to be commissioned.

http://www.irishrail.ie/cat_news.jsp?i=4556&p=116&n=237
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No DART Services between Howth & Howth Junction, Easter Sunday 8th and Easter Monday 9th April: Resignalling Works
30 March 2012

DART Services will be suspended between Howth and Howth Junction/Donaghmede on Easter Sunday 8th and Easter Monday 9th April due to resignalling works.

Customers travelling to and from Howth, Sutton and Bayside can avail of Dublin Bus services 31 and 31B as Dublin Bus will honour valid rail tickets to and from these destinations on these dates. Customers are advised to change to Dublin Bus in the city centre or at Raheny.

All other DART services will operate normally. Please note a Sunday service operates on Easter Monday, 9th April.

Iarnród Éireann apologises for any inconvenience this may cause.
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Any news on the proposed overpass at Merrion gates?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...php?p=76941443
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It must be the distance between the 2 trains. The barrier may come down after the train leaves howth junction heading to howth and stays down for the train thats just left howth. Its something like that anyway.
Partly the distance between trains, but also the distance between signals/sensors.

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Howth-Howth Junction is closed next weekend, presumably for the signalling to be commissioned.
Spot on. New signals will be up after the weekend and the wait times will drop from the 4/5 minutes to 1/2 mins.
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At Lansdowne Road there is a level crossing either side of the platform. The gate for the train to depart the station is down long before the train reaches the platform. Then passengers have to alight and board and then the train takes off. If you are lucky there is nothing coming the other way and you only get caught for 4 minutes. If there's another train within a couple of minutes of the opposite platform then you are there much longer.

The number of people who drive over this crossing when the flashing lights and siren are active is unbelievable. I have also seen knackers flex the gate back and walk on over, doing the same at the other side. I often feel like doing the same!
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I've never seen plans to eliminate the level crossings through Baldoyle or Sutton, so I have to presume that there never have been any. Not like it can't be done; best way would have been elevation of the railway. Most likely though, the way things get planned in Ireland, if this were done then the resulting railway bridges would end up having too low of clearance for those abominable "supertrucks"...
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I find it hard to beleave that you have being at most of the level crossings. Which ones do stay down for a long time and I will explain why they do.
Ok, most of the crossings between Waterford and Kilkenny then.
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Ok, most of the crossings between Waterford and Kilkenny then
Its becasue the signals are a few milkes but the 2 in mullinavat should be quicker now since the line speed has being increased and the train can clear them faster. The one that connects to the M9 always has loads of cars waiting but with the improved speed it should help.

I have found the worst ones to be north of Ballyhale particually when there is two trains crossing there.

11 crossings between Thomastwon and Waterford is a signiling nightmare as many are so close togetber

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Its becasue the signals are a few milkes but the 2 in mullinavat should be quicker now since the line speed has being increased and the train can clear them faster. The one that connects to the M9 always has loads of cars waiting but with the improved speed it should help.

I have found the worst ones to be north of Ballyhale particually when there is two trains crossing there.
Yes the ones in Ballyhale are bad alright. But I still have a 10+ minute wait every evening leaving waterford on the bus.
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Its becasue the signals are a few milkes but the 2 in mullinavat should be quicker now since the line speed has being increased and the train can clear them faster. The one that connects to the M9 always has loads of cars waiting but with the improved speed it should help.

I have found the worst ones to be north of Ballyhale particually when there is two trains crossing there.

11 crossings between Thomastwon and Waterford is a signiling nightmare as many are so close togetber
DS - how recently was the line speed increased?

Looking at a map of the area it just shows how Ireland can't do anything right - all that money spent on the M9 but nothing to grade separate or divert the road leading to it so the crossing can be closed, still less divert the line through the M9 land take to relieve the road network there and reduce passing 22/071/201 engine noise.
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